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Old 03-28-2019, 08:06 AM  
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Opening day roster:

Catchers (2): Cam Gallagher, Martin Maldonado

Infielders (7): Hunter Dozier, Lucas Duda, Whit Merrifield, Adalberto Mondesi, Ryan O’Hearn, Chris Owings, Frank Schwindel

Outfielders (4): Alex Gordon, Terrance Gore, Billy Hamilton, Jorge Soler

Starting pitchers (3): Jakob Junis, Brad Keller, Jorge Lopez

Relief pitchers (9): Scott Barlow, Brad Boxberger, Jake Diekman, Chris Ellis, Tim Hill, Ian Kennedy, Kevin McCarthy, Wily Peralta, Kyle Zimmer

Injured list: Danny Duffy, Brian Flynn, Jesse Hahn, Salvador Perez

Suspended: Eric Skoglund
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:18 AM   #2581
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1. Hochevar
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6. Andrew Miller
7. Kershaw
10. Lincecum
11. Scherzer

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Old 07-19-2019, 07:27 AM   #2582
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10. Lincecum
11. Scherzer

Reynolds is one of the few failures in the #2 slot recently. Generally better odds for getting a productive player there than 5.

4 and 5 are where the consensus dropoff usually starts happening.
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:47 AM   #2583
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Haven’t looked at all the drafts for the last 15-20 years, but I would assume the 2006 Draft is more the exception than the rule.

I would assume that generally your odds of ‘hitting’ on an elite player in the Top 3 are better than in the 5-10 range, but I could be wrong.

Truthfully, the MLB Draft is a major crap shoot compared to the other drafts.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:04 AM   #2584
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Haven’t looked at all the drafts for the last 15-20 years, but I would assume the 2006 Draft is more the exception than the rule.

I would assume that generally your odds of ‘hitting’ on an elite player in the Top 3 are better than in the 5-10 range, but I could be wrong.

Truthfully, the MLB Draft is a major crap shoot compared to the other drafts.

Between the player acquisition model, which is the least predictable model in pro sports, and the huge income and spending disparities between the teams, and guaranteed contracts, it makes it the hardest GM job in pro sports.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:14 AM   #2585
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Yeah 06 is prob the exception but the fact remains, saying 5 is automatically better than 10....I’d need to see proof.


Starling 5, Colon 4, Crow 6, Hoch 1....that’s a poor record of premium picks. Greinke 6, Hos 3, Moose 2, successes obviously. (Mike Trout 25 too lol)
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:23 AM   #2586
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Between the player acquisition model, which is the least predictable model in pro sports, and the huge income and spending disparities between the teams, and guaranteed contracts, it makes it the hardest GM job in pro sports.

You have said this a couple times now. I disagree. Being a GM with no salary cap is easier than managing a salary cap.

I would take the job of Dodgers GM over Charlotte Bobcats any day.
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You have said this a couple times now. I disagree. Being a GM with no salary cap is easier than managing a salary cap.

I would take the job of Dodgers GM over Charlotte Bobcats any day.
Try being the Royals GM where you don’t have unlimited spending resources (unlike the Dodgers).
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Try being the Royals GM where you don’t have unlimited spending resources (unlike the Dodgers).
So I think we agree, baseball small market GM's is hardest in sports but large market GM is easiest in sports.
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:39 AM   #2589
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So I think we agree, baseball small market GM's is hardest in sports but large market GM is easiest in sports.

That’s a good point. The top 10 or so markets in baseball are pretty rosy situations for a GM. Though you still have a much more restrictive player acquisition model than large market GMs in hoops or NFL.
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Duncan it’s looking like the Royals will have a top 5 pick but not the 1st pick. I’m hoping for the 2nd pick. Are there enough solid prospects to get a Bobby Witt Jr with the 2-5th pick?
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Duncan it’s looking like the Royals will have a top 5 pick but not the 1st pick. I’m hoping for the 2nd pick. Are there enough solid prospects to get a Bobby Witt Jr with the 2-5th pick?

It’s a really good and deep draft. Spencer Torkelson is the best college bat. Big-time power guy who is a LF/1B type as a pro. He might not make it past 2 depending on who is there.

Pete Crow-Armstrong is the best HS position player. He’s a very Royals-y player... super athletic, projects to stick in CF. LH hitter w/ tons of upside.

I expect Emerson Hancock to go 1-1. He’s the best college pitching prospect, IMO, since Strasburg. His teammate Cole Wilcox is also an elite college arm.

I’d like to see them nab Torkelson, personally. His power would be a nice add to the current crop.
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Re: Hochevar. That’s still a good pick in my book because as you all know, he was the winning pitcher in Game 5 of the WS clincher. If you draft a guy that high and he tosses 2 scoreless in the deciding game, he MUST be considered a Royal legend. In some way.


In 10.2 IP during the 15 playoffs, his era was.....um......zero.
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Reynolds is one of the few failures in the #2 slot recently. Generally better odds for getting a productive player there than 5.

4 and 5 are where the consensus dropoff usually starts happening.

Hey bro I’m switching to bWAR now. Fangraphs made a big change and I don’t like it. Rewarding catcher framing now, which slashed Salvy’s career totals in half. Made Posey a hall of famer. Stupid crap.
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Hey bro I’m switching to bWAR now. Fangraphs made a big change and I don’t like it. Rewarding catcher framing now, which slashed Salvy’s career totals in half. Made Posey a hall of famer. Stupid crap.

They both have weaknesses. I tend to prefer bWAR overall.
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They both have weaknesses. I tend to prefer bWAR overall.
FWAR was so good since they washed away outcomes and made it process based. Catcher framing isn’t that, it’s inteoducing bullshit. I need you to co sign my resignation letter to them.
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