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Old 05-02-2015, 03:42 PM  
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:01 PM   #16
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:01 PM   #17
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Agreed. I hoped for some other players but don't really hate the guys who were taken.
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It's definitely put to rest the whole 'Dorsey goes BPA' crowd.
Seems like he tries to stick with BPA early, but sooner or later ends up drafting to replace.

So many unknown names and redundancy in this draft that it seems impossible to "grade"... almost seems like other teams picks totally ****ed up our guys board and they had to scramble to get something they found decent.

I dunno, no draft expert here, just guessing at it... but it was a weird draft for sure.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:01 PM   #18
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Need is factored into the board already. No team drafts based on pure BPA. There are many factors that go into coming up with a big board. Just stfu already.
If this were true Paul Dawson would be a Chief right now.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:01 PM   #19
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It's definitely put to rest the whole 'Dorsey goes BPA' crowd.
No it really doesn't.

Somewhere in a thread in draft planet, I said that I thought Dorsey thinks that this team is close to competing, and that he would have an eye on need in this draft.

I was surprised with his first pick of Peters, cause that was easily a BPA pick.

What this draft tells you is that he is going to try to match position with value, as he sees it.

And clearly, we have very little idea of actual value.

Has Tre McBride been drafted yet?

Zach Vigil?

Guys that many had going in the 3rd to 5th rounds are still sitting on the board.

I'd like to think I know a little something, but frankly, it'd be pretty damn arrogant and stupid of me to sit here and say that Morse is poor value.

John Dorsey has a far better idea of value than any of us dumbass armchair GMs.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:05 PM   #20
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No it really doesn't.

Somewhere in a thread in draft planet, I said that I thought Dorsey thinks that this team is close to competing, and that he would have an eye on need in this draft.

I was surprised with his first pick of Peters, cause that was easily a BPA pick.

What this draft tells you is that he is going to try to match position with value, as he sees it.

And clearly, we have very little idea of actual value.

Has Tre McBride been drafted yet?

Zach Vigil?

Guys that many had going in the 3rd to 5th rounds are still sitting on the board.

I'd like to think I know a little something, but frankly, it'd be pretty damn arrogant and stupid of me to sit here and say that Morse is poor value.

John Dorsey has a far better idea of value than any of us dumbass armchair GMs.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:06 PM   #21
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No it really doesn't.

Somewhere in a thread in draft planet, I said that I thought Dorsey thinks that this team is close to competing, and that he would have an eye on need in this draft.

I was surprised with his first pick of Peters, cause that was easily a BPA pick.

What this draft tells you is that he is going to try to match position with value, as he sees it.

And clearly, we have very little idea of actual value.

Has Tre McBride been drafted yet?

Zach Vigil?

Guys that many had going in the 3rd to 5th rounds are still sitting on the board.

I'd like to think I know a little something, but frankly, it'd be pretty damn arrogant and stupid of me to sit here and say that Morse is poor value.

John Dorsey has a far better idea of value than any of us dumbass armchair GMs.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:09 PM   #22
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Indeed.. and not just Dorsey, but a whole team of scouts, watching and rewatching every game, talking to 10-20 contacts for each possible higher pick. They do their homework.

I just sit hit and bitch. And how many times have we heard to high to pick player X just to have him go right or very close after we pick.

We (and the armchair GMs on the TV with few exceptions) seriously have no clue.

I am happy with the overall speed and athleticism brought in. Dorsey obviously DOES believe in the coaches as teachers.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:11 PM   #23
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No it really doesn't.

Somewhere in a thread in draft planet, I said that I thought Dorsey thinks that this team is close to competing, and that he would have an eye on need in this draft.

I was surprised with his first pick of Peters, cause that was easily a BPA pick.

What this draft tells you is that he is going to try to match position with value, as he sees it.

And clearly, we have very little idea of actual value.

Has Tre McBride been drafted yet?

Zach Vigil?

Guys that many had going in the 3rd to 5th rounds are still sitting on the board.

I'd like to think I know a little something, but frankly, it'd be pretty damn arrogant and stupid of me to sit here and say that Morse is poor value.

John Dorsey has a far better idea of value than any of us dumbass armchair GMs.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:11 PM   #24
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:50 PM   #25
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No it really doesn't.

Somewhere in a thread in draft planet, I said that I thought Dorsey thinks that this team is close to competing, and that he would have an eye on need in this draft.

I was surprised with his first pick of Peters, cause that was easily a BPA pick.

What this draft tells you is that he is going to try to match position with value, as he sees it.

And clearly, we have very little idea of actual value.

Has Tre McBride been drafted yet?

Zach Vigil?

Guys that many had going in the 3rd to 5th rounds are still sitting on the board.

I'd like to think I know a little something, but frankly, it'd be pretty damn arrogant and stupid of me to sit here and say that Morse is poor value.

John Dorsey has a far better idea of value than any of us dumbass armchair GMs.
Yeah I guess I can see your point. BPA is relative to the person doing the drafting. The way a team stacks their board must take into account positional value, scheme fit, etc. and from there a chump on a forum might have a different perception of what player is BPA than a GM.

However I still think there's a threshold of common sense where you have to think, oh **** that's a really bad pick. Morse definitely tested that threshold for me.
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Old 05-02-2015, 04:57 PM   #26
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Yeah I guess I can see your point. BPA is relative to the person doing the drafting. The way a team stacks their board must take into account positional value, scheme fit, etc. and from there a chump on a forum might have a different perception of what player is BPA than a GM.

However I still think there's a threshold of common sense where you have to think, oh **** that's a really bad pick. Morse definitely tested that threshold for me.
I'm on record that I didn't like the pick.

But Dorsey and the Chiefs clearly had him rated highly, and also have a far better idea how he is rated within the NFL community than you or I.
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After watching the vid's I feel better. For a late round pick we may have done good with him.
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obviously i LOVE the pick... i've watched him for 4 years, kid can ball
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obviously i LOVE the pick... i've watched him for 4 years, kid can ball
It is pretty fun when your pro team drafts someone you have watched for years at your college. I got two this year.
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