****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

[Saul Good]

the second thread has been pronounced dead.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Wofford
Buffalo
Louisiana Monroe
West Virginia
KSU
Iowa State
Kansas (this week)

Wow

Their opponents have more losses to FCS schools than wins against BCS schools.

Simple minded national mediots getting all caught up in shiny gadgets IE offense. Same thing happened last yr after the Baylor/WVA game w/ no one paying any attn to the fact that neither one of em play any defense.

Now this yr Baylor appears to be pretty good and honestly I wouldn't want to play them but the jury's out until they play someone w/ a pulse to see if they can stop anyone. Was that Kstate game a blip or a harbinger?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

Simple minded national mediots getting all caught up in shiny gadgets IE offense. Same thing happened last yr after the Baylor/WVA game w/ no one paying any attn to the fact that neither one of em play any defense.

Now this yr Baylor appears to be pretty good and honestly I wouldn't want to play them but the jury's out until they play someone w/ a pulse to see if they can stop anyone. Was that Kstate game a blip or a harbinger?

It's the only game they've played on the road all year.

[Saul Good]

Hey Bitch...what does Sagarin say about Baylor's schedule versus Mizzou? I can tell you whose is harder, but I know you need a computer to tell you.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

Simple minded national mediots getting all caught up in shiny gadgets IE offense. Same thing happened last yr after the Baylor/WVA game w/ no one paying any attn to the fact that neither one of em play any defense.

Yeah, nothing is more interesting than the perennial Bama-LSU field goal fest. Thank God I don't watch a minute of that shit. 9-6 OT game? Knock yourself out Warpaint.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Yeah, nothing is more interesting than the perennial Bama-LSU field goal fest. Thank God I don't watch a minute of that shit. 9-6 OT game? Knock yourself out Warpaint.

You'll have to forgive the SEC if they don't tailor their games to the tastes of Kansas football fans. No wonder you like Baylor so much. If you just look at the scores, you can pretend you're watching basketball.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Mizzou fans don't get to talk about soft schedules this year.

Who you play is always a factor

Not taking that into account is silly & will lead a person to all sorts of erroneous conclusions

Mississippi State started 7-0 last year and they sucked. One of the worst 8 win teams from a major conference that you could find. Why? B/C their schedule was back loaded. They dodged the East heavies and got hammered by the three SEC elite teams they played and lost by 17 to a 4th (Ole Miss). I would venture to say that Mizzou in our broken down state could have beaten them.

As down as the Big 12 appears to be Baylor has yet to play any of the big boys and has already struggled w/ one of the little ones. While I think Baylor is probably pretty good I'm not certain of it and in no way do I think they are elite from a national perspective.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

Who you play is always a factor

Not taking that into account is silly & will lead a person to all sorts of erroneous conclusions

Mississippi State started 7-0 last year and they sucked. One of the worst 8 win teams from a major conference that you could find. Why? B/C their schedule was back loaded. They dodged the East heavies and got hammered by the three SEC elite teams they played and lost by 17 to a 4th (Ole Miss). I would venture to say that Mizzou in our broken down state could have beaten them.

As down as the Big 12 appears to be Baylor has yet to play any of the big boys and has already struggled w/ one of the little ones. While I think Baylor is probably pretty good I'm not certain of it and in no way do I think they are elite from a national perspective.

Everything you just wrote applies to Mizzou as well. The SEC-E isn't very good this year.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Yeah, nothing is more interesting than the perennial Bama-LSU field goal fest. Thank God I don't watch a minute of that shit. 9-6 OT game? Knock yourself out Warpaint.

I'm not really getting into taste in terms of style of play. Just that points scored doesn't necessarily = ability. Nor does a lack of points scored. Which is part of the reason why figuring this stuff out can be as difficult as it is at times.

That's an entirely different conversation altogether.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Everything you just wrote applies to Mizzou as well. The SEC-E isn't very good this year.

Mizzou has wins against five teams who are better than anyone Baylor has played this year...and the closest margin was 15...with two of them being on the road.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Everything you just wrote applies to Mizzou as well. The SEC-E isn't very good this year.

The concept should be applied to anyone.

To your point the East is a shell of itself due in large part to Fla & GA being gutted by injuries. We're going to find out a lot about MU this weekend & against aTm & OM. On the extreme end if the Tigers lose or win all of those games our season will be viewed in dramatically different ways as will our wins over UGA & Fla by virtue.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by warpaint*

I'm not really getting into taste in terms of style of play. Just that points scored doesn't necessarily = ability. Nor does a lack of points scored. Which is part of the reason why figuring this stuff out can be as difficult as it is at times.

That's an entirely different conversation altogether.

You would agree though that those LSU-Bama games are horrible. Right?


As for Baylor, they're ranked ahead of Mizzou in Sagarin. We'll see how it all plays out in the end. Maybe they both suck, maybe they're both great. But Baylor can score on anybody in the country. Even ATM scored 40 on Alabama.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Mizzou has wins against five teams who are better than anyone Baylor has played this year...and the closest margin was 15...with two of them being on the road.

5!? That's a reach.

[Saul Good]

Anyone want to bet that the SEC East doesn't have more players drafted this year than the entire Big 12?

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You would agree though that those LSU-Bama games are horrible. Right?


As for Baylor, they're ranked ahead of Mizzou in Sagarin. We'll see how it all plays out in the end. Maybe they both suck, maybe they're both great. But Baylor can score on anybody in the country. Even ATM scored 40 on Alabama.

That 9-6 game wasn't particularly well played IIRC. But they were the two best teams in the country that yr & I prefer it to a 70-63 pillow fight between what was ultimately a couple of 5-6 loss also rans.

If we're talking about style a low scoring & a high scoring game can both be well played or not so much. I would say I prefer good football to bad football regardless of whether it's low or high scoring. All those things being equal I would like more scoring than 5 fg's for sure.

[warpaint*]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You would agree though that those LSU-Bama games are horrible. Right?


As for Baylor, they're ranked ahead of Mizzou in Sagarin. We'll see how it all plays out in the end. Maybe they both suck, maybe they're both great. But Baylor can score on anybody in the country. Even ATM scored 40 on Alabama.

If we are talking about Mizzou vs Baylor I think that game in a bowl would be very competitive & am not sure who would win although I'd pick Mizzou b/c I'm skeptical of Baylor's defense & think MU would get to the QB enough to slow them down in what would still be a high scoring game.

In a few weeks we should have a better handle on that.