Pacqiauo vs Marquez

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Yep... boxing has given way to UFC mostly because of a lack of heavyweights.

Boxing has given way due to ineptitude at organizational levels, multiple belts, and a failure to effectively promote young talent.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Boxing has given way due to ineptitude at organizational levels, multiple belts, and a failure to effectively promote young talent.

Lack of heavyweights could have saved it.. but those guys are playing football or another sport.

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Lack of heavyweights could have saved it.. but those guys are playing football or another sport.

Possibly but I doubt. Boxing's promotion philosophies in general and refusal to move away from the PPV model has contributed largely to their decrease in commercial appearances and sponsorship dollars. Additionally, it has led to less marketable product, which in turn hurts the sport.

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Lack of heavyweights could have saved it.. but those guys are playing football or another sport.

Additionally, this is stupid. There are several elite talents for boxing as well as MMA/K1 that could b stars. For example, JDS is someone who wanted to be in boxing but to do Brasil's boxing scene, he was ignored. I think it is safe to say he has plenty of skills to be a relevant HW boxer.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Additionally, this is stupid. There are several elite talents for boxing as well as MMA/K1 that could b stars. For example, JDS is someone who wanted to be in boxing but to do Brasil's boxing scene, he was ignored. I think it is safe to say he has plenty of skills to be a relevant HW boxer.

Goes to crookedness of the boxing promoters. I was also speaking to having American heavyweights. IMHO nothing beats a good competitive (not fixed) boxing match.

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Goes to crookedness of the boxing promoters. I was also speaking to having American heavyweights. IMHO nothing beats a good competitive (not fixed) boxing match.

Yup. Boxing isn't very popular period due to their ineffective promoting and use of talent. Additionally, you have guys that are starting to realize they can cross train and make much more money at lower levels than they could with boxing without having to deal with shitty managers, sponsors, and can earn more recognition via MMA.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Yup. Boxing isn't very popular period due to their ineffective promoting and use of talent. Additionally, you have guys that are starting to realize they can cross train and make much more money at lower levels than they could with boxing without having to deal with shitty managers, sponsors, and can earn more recognition via MMA.

I would exchange the word "ineffective" with "crooked". Everything else is 100% on, but I do really think that guys like Don King ruined boxing. If you are a 6'4 230 guy with a mean streak and some fighting skills, why let some crooked a-hole steal money from you, fix your fight etc. when you can make more money and have more control over yourself?