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Old 06-12-2017, 11:14 PM  
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Well, Bye, Kansas City...

Those of you who know me and my story know I am a Southern California born and raised native but picked Chiefs as my NFL team in 1994 after the Montana win in Houston in the AFC divisional playoffs. Stayed a loyal and true Chiefs fan through the years and after finding CP in 2005 began coming out to KC once a year (thanks NZoner) for games.

2015 -- through random happenstance, I had an opportunity to come out here for a job. I did it. I made great progress in this firm, hiring and relocating new talent to KC, championing the boomtown that it is.

A few months ago, through some reorganization, I find myself leaving this firm. Not much opportunity for me any more in KC, so I relocated my family back to the West Coast last week. I must say as a born and raised Californian, the weather and the fitness here in CA, I have to pinch myself that I am lucky to be back here.

I still love KC and will be back for games, but here are a few things I observed after living in an entirely new region for the first time in my life.

1) The people are nice. Like, genuinely nice. It would take me three minutes to get through the grocery checkout just because the cashier would ask how I am doing and make small talk.

2) No traffic. I mean, the Plaza at Christmastime is basically any road in any city in California year-round. Getting from A to B in KC was always a breeze.

3) Season Tickets at Arrowhead are a dream come true. Being able to get to the stadium at 7 am every home game, and feel the rush of the crowd every week...now when I watch the games on TV it will be different. I'll surely miss being there, and the waft of BBQ smoke will be forever emblazoned in my mind.

4) It's a good life if you have very young kids. You can buy a three bedroom home for $150K with great schools. If you have teenage kids, moving here is more tough because most local kids have already bonded with friends.

5) Lots of people are overweight. Not to make a body issue statement but it's unhealthy. I hated myself for judging people there.

6) BUT.... Lots of people are active. I was surprised at how many people are running and playing tennis, etc. The workout here seems to be more for heart health than to be good looking fit, so, glad to see so many people getting out there and getting their heart rate up.

7) Produce goes bad too fast. Buy an avocado, better eat it that day. Same with lettuce. And Citrus. I was shocked how fast those fresh produce go bad.

8) Free parking in KC is a blessing. We just went to a museum in San Francisco, Parking was $24. That was focked. Ludicrous.

9) Fast healthy food is hard to come by in KC. We just ate fresh Mex burritos for lunch and in KC it seems all the fast options are Wendy's or Arby's or Burger King etc. It was an effort to eat fast/cheap/healthy there in KC.

10) The weather. Probably the most significant difference. I didn't mind the winters (many said the past two were mild) but the summers and the sticky heat, that was the worst. Three days here and it's 70 degrees and a cool breeze, that's a million dollar climate, and it cost that much.

11) KC is a boomtown. Look at all the development, there's a ton of opportunity there right now.

12) Body modification: People in KC seem to have a higher level of "fck what other people think" in terms of what they do to their hair/face/skin. As a result you get a lot of questionable tattoos and piercings and haircuts, etc. On one hand, i was appreciative of the diversity, on the other hand, it felt like the human modification version of the bad Charles Jersey I ordered online from China.

13) who the fock am I to say what KC is like or any other place. You be you, Kansas City, that's what makes you special. I'm gonna do me out here. I'll be back to visit and sing your praises in my social media feeds. All day long. Just hide the fat people.

TinyEvel out.

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Old 06-14-2017, 06:32 PM   #181
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:34 PM   #182
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Does California pay everyone like 300k or something? How is it even possible financially?

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Old 06-14-2017, 06:35 PM   #183
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One of the best places we ever camped in California was in Chula Vista. It has probably changed for the worst since we were there, but it used to be a very nice place. I liked the beautiful weather, the small town feel of the square, the little one movie theater and the very friendly folks that lived there.

Yosemite is on my list as one of the National Parks I have not been too.

Good to see California has finally had some rain. Last time I was there, most of the state was dry, brown and ugly. A lot of the forest had burned in the southern part.

One thing they will never beat my hometown on is the water from the tap. We have the best water in the country. California water sucks. It would get expensive buying bottled water all the time.
I live in NorCal and we have awesome water right out the tap. I'm on the north coast in Arcata right next to Redwood state park. I will agree other parts of the state the water can suck. My town is what you describe. Heck they have the oldest running movie theater in the united states.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:44 PM   #184
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Does California pay everyone like 300k or something? How is it even possible financially?
I get offered jobs in the high cost of living areas of California quiet frequently. These jobs would boost my pay about 25-30% compared to what I make now. The boost in pay, however, would not let me live how I'd live here. I'd have to live in a house half the size. The wife and I would likely become a one car house. I'd likely even have to live in a less desirable area compared to the nice neighborhood we live in now.

But that's the choice many make in living in a state like California, with great weather and with tons to do. I can totally see why people do it.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:48 PM   #185
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A house on my street went for $675k a few weeks ago.

It's on a hillside, about 40 years old and 600 square feet.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:09 PM   #186
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A house on my street went for $675k a few weeks ago.

It's on a hillside, about 40 years old and 600 square feet.
I had to wrap my head around looking at houses here that are 2-3 times the cost per sqft than KC.... much less 16 times more. That's a KC mortgage payment per square foot.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:12 PM   #187
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I had to wrap my head around looking at houses here that are 2-3 times the cost per sqft than KC.... much less 16 times more. That's a KC mortgage payment per square foot.
I can't believe it sold. It has to be a tear down, with a new architecturely approved home, right?

I haven't seen the new owner yet, but there are two new builds happening at the end of my street that are 3,500 square feet, with pools and all high end amenities that are already listed at $2.8 ahead of a November completion date, so it makes sense that this buyer bought it as a tear down and rebuild.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:25 PM   #188
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Both my wife and I have occupational home offices in/around LA and we both chose to work remotely due to the cost of housing. Chicago is the biggest bang for our buck amenities-wise as we're willing to go outside of some life changing salary offer. I'll take the humidity and cold for an entire world within walking distance outside my front door at this stage in my life. I don't want to turn 50 in Chicago though, it's a youthful grind, so the west coast/southwest US will always be on the radar.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:39 PM   #189
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I get offered jobs in the high cost of living areas of California quiet frequently. These jobs would boost my pay about 25-30% compared to what I make now. The boost in pay, however, would not let me live how I'd live here. I'd have to live in a house half the size. The wife and I would likely become a one car house. I'd likely even have to live in a less desirable area compared to the nice neighborhood we live in now.

But that's the choice many make in living in a state like California, with great weather and with tons to do. I can totally see why people do it.
Plus you wouldn't get to hang out with scho63.That's the real downside.
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Old 06-14-2017, 07:51 PM   #190
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Old 06-14-2017, 08:32 PM   #191
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Plus you wouldn't get to hang out with scho63.That's the real downside.
This is so true.

Plus I don't think I could swing the Cali vibe like Dane does. That takes a special kind of person.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:11 PM   #192
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Traffic is already insane. Some days, it'll take 20 minutes to get to our preschool, which is 1.4 miles from our home. Many of the new towers are being constructed on former parking lots, which were $10-$15 dollars per, so parking will be even worse, if non-existent, to non-tenants.

It's almost to the point where I won't drive, other than to Costco, Ralphs and to the schools now, so I'd imagine that I'll start using Instacart and Costco delivery more often and Uber nearly everywhere because it'll be cheaper to Uber than drive and park.

I had an event at the Director's Guild last year in which parking was $30 dollars per day and sold out when I arrived at 8am. Parking at Trader Joe's was $40 dollars for the day so instead of parking, I drove back home and requested an Uber.

It cost $8 dollars round trip, with zero frustration.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:14 PM   #193
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Not that smart, but thanks

The smart move would have been to order an Uber at 7:20am.

I missed my buddy Brian Tyler's Keynote speech.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:06 PM   #194
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NoCal is fantastic, loved Yosemite and have spent several vacations in Lake Tahoe. Would love to get back out there again sometime. Never been to SoCal and don't really have any desire to visit there.
I despise LA. Looked like a space colony to me. Ick!

I will always prefer the East Coast anyway, more charm, more history, more quaint. Tho' Cali has some quaint areas going up the coast. It's a pretty state and the west has more majestic landscapes. It is very beautiful driving up Rte One through to Seattle. Would love to see Yosemite. But I'm an East Coaster.
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Dude, my pool is perfectly shaded. That shit is downright cold through July. It's awesome.
My pool will be as warm as bath water in July and August.
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