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Old 11-21-2016, 09:33 AM  
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Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row.

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7




https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...

Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

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Old 11-21-2016, 09:50 AM   #31
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Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7



https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/


This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD to 1 INT (first red zone interception in almost 30 games) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes (Despite dropped passes)... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs.

Facts, not fiction.
I love stats. However, they can be smoke in mirrors.

Yes Alex Smith had a 94.1 QB rating, with 2 TDs and 1 pick and comp 77% of his passes. It's good and all, but the pick was an untimely one that cost the Chiefs the game. It's great that he completed 77% of his passes but what about the ones we needed most on 3rd down? You see what I'm sayin?

Stats look good and all yes but what's more important is to place or shift our attention to the details of the game and how it unfolds and that will
say more than the stats itself. That's my opinion. Sorry no intent to debunk your post or anything just offering what I think is more important in terms of what to
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:51 AM   #32
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to not put injuries at the top is ridiculous, in my humble opinion.

No Maclin? No Houston? No MP22? Hali with half a breath left? Concussions to QB and RB1? RB2 nursing something? Starting LG out on IR? Half a Gaines? No Dee Ford? Bailey gone to IR? Howard out? and Zombo getting time?
It sucks that the Chiefs are the only team playing with injuries. So unfair.
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:51 AM   #33
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When did he put them up? I know one thing - he put the INT on the board when it still mattered.
It doesn't matter when he threw the interception......../guess who
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:51 AM   #34
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The defense wasn't stifling by any means yesterday, but they still held the opposing team to 19 points. A offense should be able to win those games 95% of the time at home.
it's a fair point, but when the defense is allowing the opponent to milk the clock out (can't get off the field).. it puts all the more pressure on each mistake an offense can't make.

TB chewed up about 12 minutes in the 3rd quarter... and has another 5+ minute drive in the 4th. It was depleting.
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It sucks that the Chiefs are the only team playing with injuries. So unfair.
name their opponent injuries and compare the value in them...
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but the pick was an untimely one that cost the Chiefs the game.
Smith did what so many here have been begging him to do. Take a shot in the EZ... be aggressive!

Happy now?
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Old 11-21-2016, 09:53 AM   #37
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When did he put them up? I know one thing - he put the INT on the board when it still mattered.
INT or not the defense could have stopped Winston, they didn't. You are also acting as if the bad pass came in the final minutes of the game, well it did not.

Smith did what was expected on the ensuing drive. Score.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...-for-3-yard-TD


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Old 11-21-2016, 09:54 AM   #38
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No, No. You have it all wrong.


The defense should be flawless every game. What other teams actually expect their offense to produce?! I mean, they are simply there to not turn the ball over and set up the punter.


Offense should win these games? That's just crazy talk.

Youre killing it today....
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INT or not the defense could have stopped Winston.
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Smith did what so many here have been begging him to do. Take a shot in the EZ... be aggressive!

Happy now?
In addition to 2 deep balls. Blame Reid for the botched Kelce handoff. Blame Kelce for dropping a pass that could've been taken to the house.

Again, the Smith hate each week gets so old. It's so refreshing to have evidence to show that half of this place is incapable of using their brain.
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He sucked on third down and in the red zone ..
I'll give it to you though, he was good when it didn't matter. In between the 20s and on 1st and 2nd down.
First drive (fg)

2nd and Goal at TB 9
(7:56 - 1st) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short middle to T.Kelce
3rd and Goal at TB 9
(7:52 - 1st) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to C.Conley to TB 4 for 5 yards (V.Hargreaves)

3rd and 9 and he throws a 5 yard pass to a covered receiver.


2nd and 1 at KC 26
(8:56 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to C.Conley
3rd and 1 at KC 26
(8:52 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to T.Hill (A.Verner)

Don't remember what happened on the Conley incompletion, but he danced around like a penguin from happy feet on the 3rd and 1. Hill ran a 5 yard hitch, and if Alex gets the ball out in time it's an easy completion.

3rd and 7 at KC 40
(8:45 - 3rd) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to T.Kelce to TB 39 for 21 yards (C.Conte)

Hard to give any credit here. Kelce absolutely destroyed his guy on a drag, and a peewee qb could have thrown it 3 yards to him for.a 21 yard gain.

A few plays later
3rd and 7 at TB 36
(6:42 - 3rd) (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete deep right to C.Conley

No idea what happened here, but the end result was a ball sailing 5+ yards over the head of a covered Chris Conley.


Last drive- beautiful chunk play to kelce becomes meaningless after throwing a pick in the redzone.
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When did he put them up? I know one thing - he put the INT on the board when it still mattered.
What are you doing with this? the game came down to the last minutes.
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"I lost vision of the safety down there,” Alex said. “I’ve got to see it. It’s hard, it’s a bang-bang play. Obviously, it was probably the difference-maker today in the game.”
Straight from Alex's mouth, Tiger.

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Smith did what so many here have been begging him to do. Take a shot in the EZ... be aggressive!

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Yes, cause we knew he wasnt capable of not looking past his first read and throwing the ball to the other team...



I cant understand why everyone including former players on TV are questioning Smiths pass right into the hands of the safety...

They need to read CP to fully understand the QB position.
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