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Mr. Laz · 08-25-2015, 10:17 AM

Texans name Brian Hoyer starting QB
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Tania Ganguli, ESPN Staff Writer

HOUSTON -- The Texans named Brian Hoyer as their starting quarterback Monday, rewarding him for what coach Bill O'Brien said was his consistency since organized team activities began in May.

Texans reward Brian Hoyer for his consistency

Quarterback Brian Hoyer is smoothly running the Texans' offense and has earned the edge for the starting job. For now.

"We all need to give Brian Hoyer a chance," O'Brien said. "... I believe in him. I believe in his ability to run our offense efficiently."

Hoyer competed with Ryan Mallett for the starting job throughout the Texans' voluntary and mandatory offseason programs and through the first two weeks of training camp. Both players signed two-year deals with the Texans in the offseason, with Hoyer's deal worth $10.5 million and Mallett's worth $7 million.

The quarterbacks were told of the decision together in a meeting Monday morning.

"A sense of excitement, a sense of accomplishment ... and realizing that it's just the beginning," Hoyer said. "My being named the starter today doesn't mean that anything is going to be given to me. I have to go out and earn it every day. It's an honor and privilege to be able to do that. From here on out I have to go out and prove to my teammates, prove to everyone in this organization that I can be a winning starting quarterback for this team."

The 29-year-old Hoyer started Houston's preseason opener earlier this month against San Francisco, throwing a touchdown pass to Cecil Shorts III on the team's opening drive. Hoyer took the rest of the game off while Mallett played the remainder of the first half and second-year QB Tom Savage played the second half.

Mallett started Saturday's game against Denver. Neither Hoyer nor Mallett was able to get the Texans into the end zone against the Broncos.

"I think at this point there's definitely things that need to be corrected and get fixed," Hoyer said after the game, "but I don't feel poorly about where I'm at. I don't know if I'd say I feel great. I think we have a long way to go as an entire offensive unit, myself included."

O'Brien has often stressed that what happens in games and on the practice field was only part of the team's evaluation of its quarterbacks.

Hoyer's Ranks Last Season

Brian Hoyer ranked near the bottom of qualified NFL quarterbacks in completion percentage, touchdown-to-interception ratio and Total QBR.

However, he ranked ninth in yards per attempt.
RANK
Comp. pct. 55.3 32nd
TD-Int ratio 0.92* 31st
Total QBR 39.8 30th
Yards per att. 7.6 9th
*12 TD, 13 INT
-- ESPN Stats & Information

Hoyer and Mallett both have served as backups to Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and were teammates in New England for one year after the Patriots drafted Mallett in 2011. When Hoyer signed with the Patriots as an undrafted free agent in 2009, O'Brien was the team's quarterbacks coach.

"When he came to New England as an undrafted guy out of Michigan State, he was a wide-eyed guy," O'Brien said of Hoyer. "He settled down pretty quickly. He made that team, he beat out a couple guys who had been there for a while, and there he backed up Tom, and for a long time we only kept two quarterbacks. ... He did a good job in that situation. From that point to where we are now ... his life has changed."

Hoyer started 13 games last season for Cleveland before eventually losing the job to rookie Johnny Manziel. The Browns started 7-4 with Hoyer under center, but the seventh-year veteran struggled down the stretch, throwing seven interceptions over a three-game stretch.

He appeared in 14 games last season, passing for 3,326 yards, 12 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. The Ohio native sparked Cleveland to a three-game winning streak in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury in Week 5.

Mallett, 27, started two games last season, his first in Houston, before suffering a pectoral injury and missing the rest of the year.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-30-2015, 03:28 PM

I don't care what anyone says:

If you lose your job to Josh McCown, you suck at your job.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

If Hoyer and company were here every damn one of us would be flipping our shit because he is a Cassel clone in a Pioli clone system with a Patriot way clone staff. Declaring him some sort of anything just yet is a stretch.

Exactly.

Also, if Chase Daniel and company where here every damn one of us... oh wait.

**Mav** · 08-30-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't entirely agree on that. Rumor is the Chiefs were considering Manziel. Dorsey has said he knows Alex can't make all the throws. Reid has said Smith needs to press more. Both very subtly, of course, as neither will throw Alex under the bus. I agree the team has gotten way too conservative on seeking other QBs (they should have drafted Bridgewater) but I do believe Reid knows Smith's limitations. Reid also really loved Vick, Desean Jackson... and to a lesser extent, NIck Foles. He didn't even try to bring these guys into KC even though he easily could have.

O'Brien, on the other hand, comes from a long history of coaches who refuse to work with any QB who doesn't come from an extremely specific system.

And I agree with that. But he already had Mallet. There was a huge discussion when the Browns were interviewing 77 coaching candidates including Bill Obrien that the fans were really confident and it was reported that Obrien was in love with Hoyer. And he was quoted as saying that Bill Obrien had told people that before even left Penn State that he wanted Hoyer.

If its purely about the Patriot system thing, he already had Mallet.

**Buehler445** · 08-30-2015, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav

But that's the thing. Im not declaring him anything. He is the epitome of AVERAGE. Average arm strength, average accuracy, freaks when under pressure. Average leader. But none of that matters because ONE coach and that's all it takes believes in him.

Not you. Clay.

**Mav** · 08-30-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Not you. Clay.

ahhh. Thanks for clarifying.

Jim Lahey · 08-30-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav

Right. I mean they weren't 6-3 before Alex Mack got hurt. Then what worked so well the play action pass died because the Browns couldn't run the ball anymore, and then Brian Hoyer became useless.

I love when people try to tell ME about the Browns. Tell me Jim Lahey, exactly how many browns games did YOU watch last year?

I watched 16, so PLEASE tell me more about the Browns.

Please?

You don't need to watch 16 games to know this. I did watch a few.

His accuracy is wild at times, his arm is mediocre, and his decision making isn't good. He won't have Arian Foster in the back field. If we contain Hopkins there is absolutely nothing to worry about offensively from the Texans.

**Mav** · 08-30-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lahey

You don't need to watch 16 games to know this. I did watch a few.

His accuracy is wild at times, his arm is mediocre, and his decision making isn't good. He won't have Arian Foster in the back field. If we contain Hopkins there is absolutely nothing to worry about offensively from the Texans.

I rethought my post, and I came to the same conclusion you did.

Hoyer was garbage last year. He really was. I got all defensive. the problem I have is that McCown is the same bag of shit that Hoyer was.

chiefzilla1501 · 08-30-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lahey

You don't need to watch 16 games to know this. I did watch a few.

His accuracy is wild at times, his arm is mediocre, and his decision making isn't good. He won't have Arian Foster in the back field. If we contain Hopkins there is absolutely nothing to worry about offensively from the Texans.

His accuracy was the biggest thing I noticed. Even with a perfect pocket, countless number of times he overthrew a simple underneath route by 10 yards.

**MahiMike** · 08-30-2015, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Should be a pretty low scoring game. 13-10.

30-10 Chiefs.

Cake.

**Mav** · 08-30-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

His accuracy was the biggest thing I noticed. Even with a perfect pocket, countless number of times he overthrew a simple underneath route by 10 yards.

I did wonder is that was him just coming back from an ACL injury. Because the year before in the two games he played, he was ultra accurate.

**TribalElder** · 08-30-2015, 03:51 PM

Cleveland was stupid for letting hoyer get away

**Mav** · 08-30-2015, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

Cleveland was stupid for letting hoyer get away

To replace him with MCCOWN?

Hell yes they were. Might as well of kept him.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-30-2015, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Anyone who thinks the Texans are a cake walk is crazy. We don't have the upper hand in this game. A better secondary and equal on the DL is about it. I do however give us a coaching advantage.

Charles is our only real solid advantage and will have to be the difference maker for us to win.

We will have the perfect game plan for them.

Watt and Clowney will have absolutely NO preseason game reps going in. Idon't think that benefits them.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 08-30-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav

To replace him with MCCOWN?

Hell yes they were. Might as well of kept him.

They have Manziel. You'll see why by the end of the season.

Hammock Parties · 08-30-2015, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Watt and Clowney will have absolutely NO preseason game reps going in.

How many does Fisher have, again?

08-25-2015, 10:17 AM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Texans name Brian Hoyer starting QB Texans name Brian Hoyer starting QB 18h - NFL BRIAN HOYER +2 more Play Tania Ganguli, ESPN Staff Writer HOUSTON -- The Texans named Brian Hoyer as their starting quarterback Monday, rewarding him for what coach Bill O'Brien said was his consistency since organized team activities began in May. Texans reward Brian Hoyer for his consistency Quarterback Brian Hoyer is smoothly running the Texans' offense and has earned the edge for the starting job. For now. "We all need to give Brian Hoyer a chance," O'Brien said. "... I believe in him. I believe in his ability to run our offense efficiently." Hoyer competed with Ryan Mallett for the starting job throughout the Texans' voluntary and mandatory offseason programs and through the first two weeks of training camp. Both players signed two-year deals with the Texans in the offseason, with Hoyer's deal worth $10.5 million and Mallett's worth $7 million. The quarterbacks were told of the decision together in a meeting Monday morning. "A sense of excitement, a sense of accomplishment ... and realizing that it's just the beginning," Hoyer said. "My being named the starter today doesn't mean that anything is going to be given to me. I have to go out and earn it every day. It's an honor and privilege to be able to do that. From here on out I have to go out and prove to my teammates, prove to everyone in this organization that I can be a winning starting quarterback for this team." The 29-year-old Hoyer started Houston's preseason opener earlier this month against San Francisco, throwing a touchdown pass to Cecil Shorts III on the team's opening drive. Hoyer took the rest of the game off while Mallett played the remainder of the first half and second-year QB Tom Savage played the second half. Mallett started Saturday's game against Denver. Neither Hoyer nor Mallett was able to get the Texans into the end zone against the Broncos. "I think at this point there's definitely things that need to be corrected and get fixed," Hoyer said after the game, "but I don't feel poorly about where I'm at. I don't know if I'd say I feel great. I think we have a long way to go as an entire offensive unit, myself included." O'Brien has often stressed that what happens in games and on the practice field was only part of the team's evaluation of its quarterbacks. Hoyer's Ranks Last Season Brian Hoyer ranked near the bottom of qualified NFL quarterbacks in completion percentage, touchdown-to-interception ratio and Total QBR. However, he ranked ninth in yards per attempt. RANK Comp. pct. 55.3 32nd TD-Int ratio 0.92* 31st Total QBR 39.8 30th Yards per att. 7.6 9th *12 TD, 13 INT -- ESPN Stats & Information Hoyer and Mallett both have served as backups to Patriots quarterback Tom Brady and were teammates in New England for one year after the Patriots drafted Mallett in 2011. When Hoyer signed with the Patriots as an undrafted free agent in 2009, O'Brien was the team's quarterbacks coach. "When he came to New England as an undrafted guy out of Michigan State, he was a wide-eyed guy," O'Brien said of Hoyer. "He settled down pretty quickly. He made that team, he beat out a couple guys who had been there for a while, and there he backed up Tom, and for a long time we only kept two quarterbacks. ... He did a good job in that situation. From that point to where we are now ... his life has changed." Hoyer started 13 games last season for Cleveland before eventually losing the job to rookie Johnny Manziel. The Browns started 7-4 with Hoyer under center, but the seventh-year veteran struggled down the stretch, throwing seven interceptions over a three-game stretch. He appeared in 14 games last season, passing for 3,326 yards, 12 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. The Ohio native sparked Cleveland to a three-game winning streak in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury in Week 5. Mallett, 27, started two games last season, his first in Houston, before suffering a pectoral injury and missing the rest of the year. The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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