Chiefs Chiefs holding vote for new TD song - Page 16

MMXcalibur · 08-21-2015, 12:03 PM

The Chiefs tried this shit years ago and it didn't work because the fans got pissed. I'm guessing this is once again revolving around Gary Glitter being a pedo piece of shit and the Chiefs wanting to distance themselves from that.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/tdsongvote/

You can select from:
1) “Hey, Kansas City!” by David George & A Crooked Mile
2) “Song 2” by Blur
3) "Let Me Clear My Throat" by DJ Kool

I guess Song 2 by Blur is the best of the bunch.

Voting ends 31 August.

frozenchief · 09-17-2015, 12:19 AM

[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;11731824]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

ASCAP or BMI or SESAC collects revenue from television and Live performances in the United States.

There is an upfront fee that's required when synchronizing to Film or TV (Sync Fee) which isn't applied in this case.

Every venue that plays music in the US is required (although some businesses refuse) to pay a Performing Rights Society a fee, which is based on their size and number of people per month, a small fee. But that fee covers EVERY song played, not just a single song.

I can't even fathom how you came to this ridiculous conclusion. I'm at a loss, completely.[/QUOT

You focus upon mechanics. I am focusing upon principles. If you posted a question about an auto accident and wondered how much you owed the other driver, that is a legitimate question. The actual mechanics, though, would involve your insurance company paying the other driver's insurance company, which had paid the individual parties, such as the ambulance, the tow truck driver, etc. the principle is the same, though. You owe the other driver irrespective of who is actually contractually obliged to pay each individual person.

If you owe restitution for a criminal judgment, you owe that person. In reality, though, the money is generally paid to the court system which then distributes the money to the actual party owed the money.

The mechanics are not important. Whoever does the collecting is irrelevant. If A owes B $ and B hires C to collect, A does not owe C money. Rather, A pays C money because A owes the money to B irrespective of how the money is actually distributed. C cannot sue A to get the money because A does not owe C anything. In legal terms, C has no standing to sue unless the contract between B and C give C standing to sue.

So KC owes the copyright holder money for performing the song. The copyright holder usually employs a collector. So what? It does not affect the basic legal obligation. And from a public relations perspective, it really does not matter whether the copyright holder uses a collection agency or not, nor does it really matter if Glimmer just gets basic performance royalties. The majority of people see that a kiddy diddler is getting some money from what they pay for tickets. No company wants to be in that situation. Just look at Subway.

**007** · 09-17-2015, 12:26 AM

Not this shit again.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-17-2015, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru

Not this shit again.

He's an idiot than doesn't understand IP.

Can some one else please tell him to stop on my behalf?

**007** · 09-17-2015, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He's an idiot than doesn't understand IP.

Can some one else please tell him to stop on my behalf?

I don't understand IP either but definitely take your word for it since you work in the business.

Note to everyone. Don't argue with Dane on legal issues within the music industry. He knows more than you do about it.

**Bob Dole** · 09-17-2015, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

music should be free

Says the guy who has never created any.

Chromatic · 09-17-2015, 02:00 AM

Here's what its going to sound like live uhhhhhhhghhhhh

Dayze · 09-17-2015, 02:04 AM

Oy.....

**007** · 09-17-2015, 02:07 AM

Could be worse. It could be that shit the Orioles play.

Dayze · 09-17-2015, 02:28 AM

They should play Drops of Jupiter by Train

**007** · 09-17-2015, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

They should play Drops of Jupiter by Train

In my best Frazod imitation....

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-17-2015, 03:04 AM

I don't even want to listen to it.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-17-2015, 03:07 AM

Okay, I just listened to it. You people are ****ing spazzing over nothing. That is not the most horrid thing ever, and I would imagine that if I were good and plowed, I'd be jamming right along.

Now, if Iron Maiden would do a cover...

**007** · 09-17-2015, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Okay, I just listened to it. You people are ****ing spazzing over nothing. That is not the most horrid thing ever, and I would imagine that if I were good and plowed, I'd be jamming right along.

Now, if Iron Maiden would do a cover...

Yeah, when I first heard it last month I downright hated it. But the more I heard it the more I felt we could still put the TD chant in there. Now that they have done that I'm fine with it.

InChiefsHeaven · 09-17-2015, 05:33 AM

It's fine, jeeez. For everyone who says we hate change, this is a change that really isn't any different. And Dave George is a local KC guy, from what I've read. So, just relax FFS.

Honestly, it's way better than I thought it would be. As I said earlier, if we're kickin' Donkey ass tonight, it'll be a huge hit.

Eleazar · 09-17-2015, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromatic

Here's what its going to sound like live uhhhhhhhghhhhh

That's freaking terrible.

View Poll Results: Which of the following should be the new Chiefs post-TD song?
“Hey, Kansas City!” by David George & A Crooked Mile	13	17.57%
“Song 2” by Blur	27	36.49%
"Let Me Clear My Throat" by DJ Kool	17	22.97%
"My Heart Will Go On" by Celine Dion	17	22.97%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

08-21-2015, 12:03 PM
MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $2235086	Chiefs holding vote for new TD song The Chiefs tried this shit years ago and it didn't work because the fans got pissed. I'm guessing this is once again revolving around Gary Glitter being a pedo piece of shit and the Chiefs wanting to distance themselves from that. http://www.kcchiefs.com/tdsongvote/ You can select from: 1) “Hey, Kansas City!” by David George & A Crooked Mile 2) “Song 2” by Blur 3) "Let Me Clear My Throat" by DJ Kool I guess Song 2 by Blur is the best of the bunch. Voting ends 31 August.
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09-17-2015, 12:19 AM	#226
frozenchief Cynical Misanthrope Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Alaska Casino cash: $1391379	[QUOTE=DaneMcCloud;11731824]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. ASCAP or BMI or SESAC collects revenue from television and Live performances in the United States. There is an upfront fee that's required when synchronizing to Film or TV (Sync Fee) which isn't applied in this case. Every venue that plays music in the US is required (although some businesses refuse) to pay a Performing Rights Society a fee, which is based on their size and number of people per month, a small fee. But that fee covers EVERY song played, not just a single song. I can't even fathom how you came to this ridiculous conclusion. I'm at a loss, completely.[/QUOT You focus upon mechanics. I am focusing upon principles. If you posted a question about an auto accident and wondered how much you owed the other driver, that is a legitimate question. The actual mechanics, though, would involve your insurance company paying the other driver's insurance company, which had paid the individual parties, such as the ambulance, the tow truck driver, etc. the principle is the same, though. You owe the other driver irrespective of who is actually contractually obliged to pay each individual person. If you owe restitution for a criminal judgment, you owe that person. In reality, though, the money is generally paid to the court system which then distributes the money to the actual party owed the money. The mechanics are not important. Whoever does the collecting is irrelevant. If A owes B $ and B hires C to collect, A does not owe C money. Rather, A pays C money because A owes the money to B irrespective of how the money is actually distributed. C cannot sue A to get the money because A does not owe C anything. In legal terms, C has no standing to sue unless the contract between B and C give C standing to sue. So KC owes the copyright holder money for performing the song. The copyright holder usually employs a collector. So what? It does not affect the basic legal obligation. And from a public relations perspective, it really does not matter whether the copyright holder uses a collection agency or not, nor does it really matter if Glimmer just gets basic performance royalties. The majority of people see that a kiddy diddler is getting some money from what they pay for tickets. No company wants to be in that situation. Just look at Subway.
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09-17-2015, 12:26 AM	#227
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09-17-2015, 02:00 AM	#231
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09-17-2015, 03:07 AM	#237
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Okay, I just listened to it. You people are **ing spazzing over nothing. That is not the most horrid thing ever, and I would imagine that if I were good and plowed, I'd be jamming right along. Now, if Iron Maiden would do a cover... __________________ 1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously. 100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ing rings as a Head Coach. CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!**
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09-17-2015, 05:33 AM	#239
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