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Old 12-14-2017, 11:47 AM  
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Browns' John Dorsey: 'The guys that were here before, they didn't get real players'
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/inde...e_guys_th.html

"You know what? You've got to get a guy like that (Hue Jackson) players,'' Dorsey told the "Really Big Show'' with Aaron Goldhammer on WKNR 850, the home of the Browns today. "And you know what? I'll come straight out with it. The guys who were here before, that system, they didn't get real players.''

Damn, bro. Picking up Hue Jackson's tendencies to throw his own players under the bus.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:17 PM   #16
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Why do I care about their "bro hug" after perhaps the best 1st round pick in 38 years?....
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:17 PM   #17
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Don't see where he is wrong on this.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:18 PM   #18
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Bold statement. But he's right. And I'm guessing Cleveland would embrace a guy who doesn't sugar coat things. They got too cute with their draft picks. Passing on two maybe 3 franchise qbs just to stockpile picks? Drafting tweeners like jabril peppers. Etc... I'm sure more than anything this is a jab at trying to introduce moneyball to the NFL
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:18 PM   #19
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:23 PM   #20
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Don't see where he is wrong on this.
Just low class. Insulting the previous GM and players.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:23 PM   #21
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Don't see where he is wrong on this.
His statement is not incorrect, but where he is wrong is that he will need many of these "unreal players" to produce for him while he rebuilds.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:24 PM   #22
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No new info but Breer mentioned something about Dorsey in his column today...

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8. Worth doubling back on our story from June on where it all went wrong for new Browns GM John Dorsey in Kansas City. The overarching problem Dorsey had there was in managing a staff and the attendant office politics, which are elements of the job that can be challenging for guys who cut their teeth as on-the-road scouts.
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Just low class. Insulting the previous GM and players.
Then don't suck and you won't be insulted.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:25 PM   #24
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His statement is not incorrect, but where he is wrong is that he will need many of these "unreal players" to produce for him while he rebuilds.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:26 PM   #25
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Browns - Chiefs AFCCG in three seasons.
It will be a hell of a challenge, but with all the picks they have, we will see just how good he was.
His problem was mostly contract negotiations.
I'm betting Cleveland is a powerhouse within 3 years like you say.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:28 PM   #26
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That's the way I see it. The key difference will be that our QB got to learn on the bench his first season, accelerating his growth.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:31 PM   #27
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How is he wrong?

He will have them in the Super Bowl before the Chiefs.
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Old 12-14-2017, 12:34 PM   #29
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He got a little too cute with looking at measurables and drafting huge projects, rather than blue-chippers. Especially when he did that in the first 3 rounds.

I wonder if Veach is jealous that he didn't get to say that kind of thing coming in.

I don't honestly see a Smith-Dorsey reunion. Hunt wanted to win right away.. I don't think Haslam minds wading through a couple bad years first. Not zero-win years, but I don't think there is much fire under Dorsey to win immediately.
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It will be a hell of a challenge, but with all the picks they have, we will see just how good he was.
His problem was mostly contract negotiations.
I'm betting Cleveland is a powerhouse within 3 years like you say.
And building an OL

And drafting defense

Not too many problems
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