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Old 10-29-2014, 11:39 AM  
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2014 Bowe's best year?
Interesting article on Bowe in Arrowhead Pride (by MNChiefsFan) that looks at Bowe's "efficiency" thus far in 2014. It's a fairly lengthy article so I'll only post the thesis and leave you with a link:

"Somehow, very quietly, Bowe is starting to piece together his most efficient season as a pro.

Let me give you a couple of minutes to stop laughing and making fun of me.

(waits)

You good? Great. I suppose what got you laughing was the idea that Bowe is somehow better this season than he was in 2010 or 2011 (his most productive seasons by yards and touchdowns) is pretty ridiculous. Which is why I'm not here to argue as to whether Bowe is going to post better overall stats than he did those years.

This is where the word "efficiency" becomes important. Because so far this season, Bowe has been highly efficient with the targets he's received."

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http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/1...as-city-chiefs
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Old 10-29-2014, 01:16 PM   #31
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Bowe is grossly underrated on this board.

Our offense has been amazingly efficient this year sans the Dolphins game and, to a lesser extent, the 49ers game.

Starting to really like this team and really like the guy in charge (Dorsey). Reid still needs to hire me for clock management, though.
What about the Titans game?
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Old 10-29-2014, 01:30 PM   #32
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Old 10-29-2014, 01:30 PM   #33
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I read this when in came out and thought it was a really intriguing way to evaluate a WR.

Bowe has been doing all the right team stuff this year and playing good but he should be GREAT based on his salary.
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Old 10-29-2014, 01:39 PM   #34
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I read this when in came out and thought it was a really intriguing way to evaluate a WR.

Bowe has been doing all the right team stuff this year and playing good but he should be GREAT based on his salary.
For all the shit Eric Fisher and Alex Smith take, Bowe needs more critics.
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Old 10-29-2014, 02:10 PM   #35
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That excuse only goes so far. Again he's a very good WR but his production doesn't match his salary. Look at the QB's Andre Johnson has played with for example or Eric Deckers touchdowns with Tim Tebow. The last few years Bowe wasn't very good. I heard a stat that he hadn't caught a touchdown in a Chiefs victory since the Colts game 2011. Don't know if that's true or not.

Can't be.

He scored the go-ahead TD in our win against the Cowboys game last season.
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Good? Yes. Anywhere near worth what he's paid? No.
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Good? Yes. Anywhere near worth what he's paid? No.
This.

If we'd have spent a 1 or 3 in the draft @ WR last year we probably wouldn't even miss him...
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Good? Yes. Anywhere near worth what he's paid? No.
He never will be. At the time he got the contract.....Dorsey was forced to overpay him because Albert wasn't signing his contract. Do you franchise tag Bowe and watch as Albert walks away for nothing? Or do you overpay Bowe and tag Albert so that you can find his replacement?

No Bowe? That means that Alex Smith gets to throw to Donnie Avery and McCluster as his top two WRs.

Is Bowe overpaid? Sure. But at the time....it was the only choice to get Alex Smith weapons and still have a LT to block for him.
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This.

If we'd have spent a 1 or 3 in the draft @ WR last year we probably wouldn't even miss him...
I couldn't believe KC didn't grab Cody Latimer but so glad they didn't. Not sure what the aversion to drafting wr is there...
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He never will be. At the time he got the contract.....Dorsey was forced to overpay him because Albert wasn't signing his contract. Do you franchise tag Bowe and watch as Albert walks away for nothing? Or do you overpay Bowe and tag Albert so that you can find his replacement?

No Bowe? That means that Alex Smith gets to throw to Donnie Avery and McCluster as his top two WRs.

Is Bowe overpaid? Sure. But at the time....it was the only choice to get Alex Smith weapons and still have a LT to block for him.
That's enlightening, hadn't seen it that way. Still need to draft wr though imho...
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"Target" just means he was the intended receiver, right? It could have been a really shitty throw. So the better 'efficiency' could just be that the throws are better this year than in 2010, I'd assume.

Kind of seems like a worthless stat. If they could tell me that he's had X amount of catchable passes thrown to him and he's caught X many, then I guess that would be useful.
What's funny is that he got his numbers from PFF, and they do track catchable balls, the author just chose not to include it, mainly because it doesn't make Bowe look very good.

He's had 28 catchable balls thrown his way, and has caught 25, for 89%. That puts him at 122nd out of 177 WRs. Emmanuel Sanders is at 98%, Donnie Avery is at 93%.
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I couldn't believe KC didn't grab Cody Latimer but so glad they didn't. Not sure what the aversion to drafting wr is there...
wanted Latimer... **** you! At least KC doesn't have to completely spoil their QB with receiving talent to win.

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You have to get open to get targeted.
Alex Smith "open" is not NFL open.

Bowe is NFL open consistently.
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wanted Latimer... **** you! At least KC doesn't have to completely spoil their QB with receiving talent to win.

Yeah I thought he was a no brainer for KC. Not sure surrounding your qb with weapons is "spoiling"... Oh and **** you too :-)
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Yeah I thought he was a no brainer for KC. Not sure surrounding your qb with weapons is "spoiling"... Oh and **** you too :-)
just for kicks... where would you rank Denver's offensive supporting cast in the League?

... and then, rank KC's...

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