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Chad Pennington 68 57.14%
Michael Vick 16 13.45%
David Carr 46 38.66%
Joey Harrington 55 46.22%
Patrick Ramsey 85 71.43%
Carson Palmer 23 19.33%
Byron Leftwich 71 59.66%
Kyle Boller 89 74.79%
Rex Grossman 82 68.91%
Eli Manning 8 6.72%
Philip Rivers 17 14.29%
Ben Roethlisberger 23 19.33%
Alex Smith 35 29.41%
Aaron Rodgers 14 11.76%
Jason Campbell 79 66.39%
Vince Young 53 44.54%
Matt Leinart 63 52.94%
Jay Cutler 32 26.89%
JaMarcus Russell 57 47.90%
Brady Quinn 76 63.87%
Matt Ryan 22 18.49%
Joe Flacco 38 31.93%
Matt Stafford 13 10.92%
Mark Sanchez 61 51.26%
Josh Freeman 59 49.58%
Sam Bradford 29 24.37%
Tim Tebow 85 71.43%
Cam Newton 22 18.49%
Jake Locker 70 58.82%
Blaine Gabbert 72 60.50%
Christian Ponder 81 68.07%
Andrew Luck 4 3.36%
Robert Griffin III 7 5.88%
Ryan Tannehill 57 47.90%
Brandon Weeden 73 61.34%
Geno Smith isn't better than any of these QBs 12 10.08%
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:46 PM  
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As a QB prospect coming out of college, Geno Smith is greater than...?
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Remember, we're talking about these players as prospects. I don't care what has happened to Jay Cutler or Brady Quinn or Aaron Rodgers. If you think those QBs had more to work with as potential pros, then check them off.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:43 AM   #46
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"Save some money, trade Albert and Draft Luke..win win"

Dipshittery at it's finest.
Draft Luke, move Albert to guard. It's like you're getting two players for one pick!
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:55 AM   #47
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What do all of those QBs I listed have in common?
Right. My point being that Air Raid quarterbacks should perhaps be compared against one another rather than QBs from other systems because Air Raid numbers can be crazy.

To me, Geno Smith is really hard to evaluate. In my mind, given the talent he played with, and given the system, his numbers are nothing special (Case Keenum, Seth Doege, etc.), but he does run a sub-4.6 and have a nice arm.
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Right. My point being that Air Raid quarterbacks should perhaps be compared against one another rather than QBs from other systems because Air Raid numbers can be crazy.

To me, Geno Smith is really hard to evaluate. In my mind, given the talent he played with, and given the system, his numbers are nothing special (Case Keenum, Seth Doege, etc.), but he does run a sub-4.6 and have a nice arm.
Geno's Air Raid is pretty different from what Case Keenum ran. Drastically different, actually.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:05 AM   #49
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:07 AM   #50
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It's been said before, but I'll say it again -

The worst thing Geno has done to negatively affect his draft stock was to enter the draft the year after Luck and RGIII. Most any other year he'd be considered a top 3 pick.
Absolutely THIS. People have forgotten that most drafts don't have ANY "sure things" at any position, much less two of em in the most important position of all. The collective memory is short and cloudy.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:14 AM   #52
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Hindsight is strong in this thread.

And the worst thing Geno did was not enter the draft after Luck like people stupidly claim. He was well worth the first pick in September and October. He played worse as the year went on compared to his first handful of games. Can only blame himself.
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Hindsight is strong in this thread.

And the worst thing Geno did was not enter the draft after Luck like people stupidly claim. He was well worth the first pick in September and October. He played worse as the year went on compared to his first handful of games. Can only blame himself.
Yup.
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If he goes to the Jaguars he will be better than any of them. Geno to Blackmon will go down as the best combo since Young to Rice.
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Hindsight is strong in this thread.

And the worst thing Geno did was not enter the draft after Luck like people stupidly claim. He was well worth the first pick in September and October. He played worse as the year went on compared to his first handful of games. Can only blame himself.
Yeah, those six picks he threw all year are a real deal breaker.

He had bad games for him against K-State and Texas Tech. The Syracuse game was a pretty average game by anyone's standards, but a poorly called game by his coordinator.

The guy equaled RGIII's production his last year in college minus the rushing yards, but only has himself to blame. Makes zero sense whatsoever.
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If he goes to the Jaguars he will be better than any of them. Geno to Blackmon will go down as the best combo since Young to Rice.
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Nice pass.

It doesn't change the fact that Stafford played in a more vertical scheme at Georgia. The chart was posted about the majority of Geno's passes being short routes and screen passes.

I'm not knocking him, but I don't think he's the prospect Stafford was.
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Geno throws a huge number of screens. Last year, the average quarterbacks threw screens 17% of the time. Smith threw screens on 30% of all his passes! Given that the success rate of screens is so high, that means his overall completion percentage is inflated.

His throws are close to the line of scrimmage. In total, 45% of his passes (including screens) were thrown within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.

That of course means he’s not throwing many deep passes. Only 27% of Geno’s passes went further than 10 yards, compared to 37% for the average quarterback.



http://secondroundstats.com/2013/02/...outing-report/

And Geno's deep ball accuracy was below the average QB's as well.

The stats are on The Bad Guy's side.
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GENO VS CHASE

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2010* West Virginia Big East SO QB 241 372 64.8 2763 7.4 7.9 24 7

2011* West Virginia Big East JR QB 346 526 65.8 4385 8.3 8.9 31 7 152.6
2012* West Virginia Big 12 SR QB 369 518 71.2 4205 8.1 9.2 42 6 163.9
Career West Virginia 988 1465 67.4 11662 8.0 8.7 98 21 153.5

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2006* Missouri Big 12 SO QB 287 452 63.5 3527 7.8 8.0 28 10 145.1
2007* Missouri Big 12 JR QB 384 563 68.2 4306 7.6 7.9 33 11 147.9
2008* Missouri Big 12 SR QB 385 528 72.9 4335 8.2 8.2 39 18 159.4
Career Missouri 1094 1609 68.0 12515 7.8 7.9 101 41 148.9

Both ran identical forms of the spread, I imagine there careers will end up about the same. Take the left tackle, Alex gonna Ball!!
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42 TD and 6 picks versus 39 TD and 18 picks.

Yep, they're the same.

Not to mention one of them is about 4'9.
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