Prayer Request I need help fast, guys. - Page 4

DementedLogic · 02-19-2013, 11:33 AM

This is an issue I had to deal with for a long time. My cousin, who I am very close with, is a recovering heroin addict. Until they hit rock bottom, there isn't much you can do to help. My cousin OD'ed and spent a week in a coma, and that was his rock bottom. When he woke up, he was so grateful to be alive that he finally decided to face his problem. He turned himself in for the felony drug charges against him and spent some time in prison, but that time in prison helped him a lot. It gave his life some much needed structure while he recovered from his addiction. It also gave him additional motivation to never use again. He's been sober for almost 3 years now and is studying to become a mechanical engineer.

It's important to remember that when you think you might be helping him, you might actually be hurting him. The best thing you can do safely steer him towards rock bottom. That is the only thing that will convince him that he needs to help himself. The longer he stays hooked, the less likely he will ever be able to get sober again.

bowener · 02-19-2013, 06:21 PM

Update:

Police finally searched his truck and found drugs and paraphernalia, as well as jewelry that was stolen from my mother a week ago. Unfortunately only the worthless stuff remained. There is still roughly $8,000+ missing, but we think we know which Pawn Shop in Independence he may have tried to sell them at.

Honestly I feel relief knowing where he will be for the foreseeable future. It all still seems surreal. We are hoping the judge leans toward a court ordered rehab program, but the county judge isn't know for leniency.

**Easy 6** · 02-19-2013, 06:27 PM

You did the right thing dude, this was the wake-up call he needed... even if, as Hamas said, it makes him hate you for a while.

When/if he straightens himself out, he'll be grateful that you had the balls to do it.

Were i in your shoes i wouldnt second guess it for one second, it had to be done and you did it... good job, sometimes love is tough.

Rasputin · 02-19-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

You did the right thing dude, this was the wake-up call he needed... even if, as Hamas said, it makes him hate you for a while.

When/if he straightens himself out, he'll be grateful that you had the balls to do it.

Were i in your shoes i wouldnt second guess it for one second, it had to be done and you did it... good job, sometimes love is tough.

Word for word this. Good job making that tough call. I feel for you and get your rest. Good luck getting that job stay strong. You put it in Gods hands now.

beach tribe · 02-19-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

Update:

Police finally searched his truck and found drugs and paraphernalia, as well as jewelry that was stolen from my mother a week ago. Unfortunately only the worthless stuff remained. There is still roughly $8,000+ missing, but we think we know which Pawn Shop in Independence he may have tried to sell them at.

Honestly I feel relief knowing where he will be for the foreseeable future. It all still seems surreal. We are hoping the judge leans toward a court ordered rehab program, but the county judge isn't know for leniency.

OH shit. I should have read the rest of the thread. I didn't know he was already stealing and shit. The situation had already progressed beyond my suggestions, I guess.

02-19-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

OH shit. I should have read the rest of the thread. I didn't know he was already stealing and shit. The situation had already progressed beyond my suggestions, I guess.

Yeah. Really, the only hope is that he actually gets into trouble with that shit. That stuff will ruin you and I'd rather destroy my relationship with a family member than stand by and watch them kill themselves. If and when they sober up, they'll be more apt to recognize you were looking out for them.

ClevelandBronco · 02-19-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Yeah. Really, the only hope is that he actually gets into trouble with that shit. That stuff will ruin you and I'd rather destroy my relationship with a family member than stand by and watch them kill themselves. If and when they sober up, they'll be more apt to recognize you were looking out for them.

Yeah. The guy that's stealing to feed his addiction isn't even bowener's brother in a way. The addiction stole the brother long before it stole the jewelry.

The recovery rate for opiates just sucks. I mean, all recovery rates suck, but that one sucks especially. It's a long, hard road back. For most people it requires physical, psychological and spiritual healing on a miraculous level -- not just for the addict, but for the ones who love him as well.

There are no hard and fast rules except for how it inevitably ends if the addict can't figure out a way to fight for his recovery with every ounce of energy he can muster.

I can offer nothing but nothing but prayers for everyone involved.

beach tribe · 02-19-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Yeah. Really, the only hope is that he actually gets into trouble with that shit. That stuff will ruin you and I'd rather destroy my relationship with a family member than stand by and watch them kill themselves. If and when they sober up, they'll be more apt to recognize you were looking out for them.

So true. I was hoping he caught it at an earlier stage than what it had progressed to. It is without a doubt the hardest drug problem anyone will have to deal with. It cannot be done alone.
Hopefully this saves his life. His actions have already warranted him getting popped. So he will definitely forgive him with a little time.

**bevischief** · 02-19-2013, 06:28 PM

Good luck. Didn't you have a job interview today?

bowener · 02-19-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bevischief

Good luck. Didn't you have a job interview today?

Yep. I don't feel like it went well. My mind was on other things obviously, and I slept a rough 90 minutes before I had to get up. It isn't the end of the world. I will have other chances. I actually found another opening today closer to where I currently live, so that is pretty great!

**TimeForWasp** · 02-19-2013, 08:40 PM

bullshit cops don't give a ****. They only care about bust counts.

houstonwhodat · 02-20-2013, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow

bullshit cops don't give a ****. They only care about bust counts.

They like going to court so they can rack up the overtime too.

Coach · 02-19-2013, 08:47 PM

Thoughts and prayers are with you guys.

beach tribe · 02-19-2013, 08:58 PM

Damn. I do not know what others in this thread have told you, but DON'T call the cops on him. He will NEVER forgive you, and might cause him to reject any future help from you.
TALK TO HIM. Ask him if he wants help. A lot of people who are caught up in those kinds of drugs are trapped by them, and would do anything to be able to get off of them, but can't deal with the withdrawls. May be the case may not, but you need to know before doing ANYTHING drastic. Again, Don't attack him. Talk to him. If he wants help get him into a facility.
Start there, and let us know what he says.
Note: He's not gonna be honest with you unless you come to him from a place of logic.
(you're gonna die. You're ruining your life) Try to level with him. Do not preach. Do not bitch him out. He knows what he's doing is wrong.

02-19-2013, 11:33 AM	#1
DementedLogic Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Casino cash: $9375080	This is an issue I had to deal with for a long time. My cousin, who I am very close with, is a recovering heroin addict. Until they hit rock bottom, there isn't much you can do to help. My cousin OD'ed and spent a week in a coma, and that was his rock bottom. When he woke up, he was so grateful to be alive that he finally decided to face his problem. He turned himself in for the felony drug charges against him and spent some time in prison, but that time in prison helped him a lot. It gave his life some much needed structure while he recovered from his addiction. It also gave him additional motivation to never use again. He's been sober for almost 3 years now and is studying to become a mechanical engineer. It's important to remember that when you think you might be helping him, you might actually be hurting him. The best thing you can do safely steer him towards rock bottom. That is the only thing that will convince him that he needs to help himself. The longer he stays hooked, the less likely he will ever be able to get sober again.
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02-19-2013, 06:21 PM	#2
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02-19-2013, 08:58 PM	#15
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $4778036	Damn. I do not know what others in this thread have told you, but DON'T call the cops on him. He will NEVER forgive you, and might cause him to reject any future help from you. TALK TO HIM. Ask him if he wants help. A lot of people who are caught up in those kinds of drugs are trapped by them, and would do anything to be able to get off of them, but can't deal with the withdrawls. May be the case may not, but you need to know before doing ANYTHING drastic. Again, Don't attack him. Talk to him. If he wants help get him into a facility. Start there, and let us know what he says. Note: He's not gonna be honest with you unless you come to him from a place of logic. (you're gonna die. You're ruining your life) Try to level with him. Do not preach. Do not bitch him out. He knows what he's doing is wrong.
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