Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 132

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

Aspengc8 · 11-14-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Was listening to NFL Radio and Jim Miller evidently had this same condition. He had surgery where they went in and detatched the achilles and shaved down the bone and then re-attached everything. He had is on both heels. Even after the surgery both achilles snapped. He didn't think there was much anyone could do but couldn't understand why Berry wasn't just on IR because it isn't a condition that gets better on its own. He may be able to play but eventually the tendon is going to pop.

FWIW...

His spur may he on the side of the foot, or not necessarily a spot where the achilles tendon needs to be removed in order to shave the spur down. He may have had surgery to shave it down and is just dealing with post op rehab. The fact that there is no information about what is going on makes me think he had it shaved and is just dealing with post op now. could take anywhere from 6 weeks to 3 months to recover.

**loochy** · 11-14-2018, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Have I seen him play?

NOPE
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htismaqe · 11-14-2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

He is the homeless looking dude with the notepad on the sideline.

Ah, yes. Grady!

**MahiMike** · 11-14-2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Wouldn’t budge?

Good for him. I will side with the players over the owners every single time. Guy wants to max his value after playing like an all-pro to make as much as he can for a short time in his life? Awesome.

The owners don’t give a shit about the players.

Neither do I. These guys are our gladiators for entertainment purposes only. If it wasn't for football, what would they be doing?

Suck it up and get out there!

TambaBerry · 11-14-2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

The nurses fixed him!!!!

School of Nursing students and faculty had a visitor - Eric Berry! �� pic.twitter.com/mgvTeo8qRF
— KU Medical Center (@KUMedCenter) November 7, 2018

if he can do that he can run around on a field for 20 minutes

**loochy** · 11-14-2018, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Neither do I. These guys are our gladiators for entertainment purposes only. If it wasn't for football, what would they be doing?

Suck it up and get out there!

Well, for one, Eric Berry would probably be in professional rodeo.
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Marcellus · 11-14-2018, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

Well, for one, Eric Berry would probably be in professional rodeo.
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He hates horses!

FloridaMan88 · 11-14-2018, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

/tapout acknowledged

You tapped out when you drooled all over your 8 chins with the lame "owners don't give a shit about the players" cliche and then you were unable to connect how that applies to Eric Berry's specific situation with the Chiefs.

Also how are you and the other Eric Berry Apologists planning to celebrate Day 95 of Eric Berry's "Day to Day" Extravaganza?

FloridaMan88 · 11-14-2018, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

RunKC is literally (and I mean that literally) twice the football IQ poster that you are, you shouldn't be calling anyone stupid. Ever.

This coming from the dumbshit who has spent the past 95 days claiming that nothing is out of the ordinary with Eric Berry's "injury" situation.

JFC stop posting.

Marcellus · 11-14-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

This coming from the dumbshit who has spent the past 95 days claiming that nothing is out of the ordinary with Eric Berry's "injury" situation.

JFC stop posting.

I have never said that you butt ****ing moron.

FloridaMan88 · 11-14-2018, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Read the tea leaves:

-Chiefs obviously knew about this for weeks.
-Pretty clear that Berry so far doesn’t want/need surgery.
-getting better every week=inflammation is slowly going down.

I think he’ll play around mid season. Early November

FloridaMan88 · 11-14-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Nor is there any merit to the idea the team or Berry are hiding something. There is literally no advantage in any way shape or form to them doing that.

You and others simply have a case of believing that because this isn't going how you want it to that there MUST be some kind of shenanigans going on when really its exactly what's been portrayed.

But hey if it makes you feel better keep believing its some type of conspiracy regardless of whether that makes a lick of sense or not, go for it.

bowener · 11-14-2018, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Was listening to NFL Radio and Jim Miller evidently had this same condition. He had surgery where they went in and detatched the achilles and shaved down the bone and then re-attached everything. He had is on both heels. Even after the surgery both achilles snapped. He didn't think there was much anyone could do but couldn't understand why Berry wasn't just on IR because it isn't a condition that gets better on its own. He may be able to play but eventually the tendon is going to pop.

FWIW...

First, get out of here with an anecdote that is topical and gets in the way of our shitposting.

Second, the highlighted section should make it obvious to everyone that is bitching about him sitting. He is going to play in the playoffs, and not before then.

Had the Chiefs been ass this year and desperately needed his services to compete, then he might have tried to give it a go, but there is no need for him at this time as the Chiefs sit 9-1.

TambaBerry · 11-14-2018, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

First, get out of here with an anecdote that is topical and gets in the way of our shitposting.

Second, the highlighted section should make it obvious to everyone that is bitching about him sitting. He is going to play in the playoffs, and not before then.

Had the Chiefs been ass this year and desperately needed his services to compete, then he might have tried to give it a go, but there is no need for him at this time as the Chiefs sit 9-1.

Marcellus · 11-14-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

That doesn't say what you claim it says you ****ing dolt. Goddamn you are dumb. Stop while you are still only a mile behind.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2016899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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