Robin Williams Dead

[Silock]

RIP

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by stumppy

WOW

Maybe you should.....eh.....just nevermind.

No, no. He's dead right. Addicts and boozers are remarkably adept liars and manipulators when they're living in their addictions. And they're often just as remarkably honest when they're living in recovery.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

All true. But with treatment, at least some will get clean enough long enough to want to stay that way. Will a large fraction take treatment instead of jail even though they have no interest in getting well? Yes. Does a large fraction do jail time now without wanting to stop doing crime when they get out? Also yes. So maybe it's something of a wash. Maybe not. I can't know the numbers.

I'm not hoping for a one-size-fits-all answer for every problem. This much is certain: Felony convictions seriously damage people's chances of reentering productive society. Young users who enter the legal system have a very hard time working their way out of it. I am hoping to offer rescuable people a way back into productive lives before their futures are irretrievably lost. Once we've tried, it's really up to them to do what they will with the chance they're offered.

Get out of my head.
Seriously, very well put.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

No, no. He's dead right. Addicts and boozers are remarkably adept liars and manipulators when they're living in their addictions. And they're often just as remarkably honest when they're living in recovery.

Oh, I agree. It's just his overall attitude I have a problem with.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I am not against giving treatment, but I know the hard core people who get sober and get depression help often use hard ass jail time to make them get .a wake up call. So at-least I see positives in it making people I come in contact get their shit together instead of a pansy treatment center.

I agree that we'd have to keep hard prison time as an option for those that don't respond to treatment for their illness.

I've volunteered some of my time at several treatment centers. Some would definitely fit on the pansy side of the comfort scale. Some others are lockdown facilities that are just one step short of jail.

If we decide to treat addiction as a health problem, we'll have to also accept that patients are not prisoners (yet), so I'm not concerned that places that treat illness don't look and feel like a Supermax. Nor do I think patients need an ocean view to get well. I'd hope for something that looks and feels very much like a medical facility.

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Damn right. Anyone with a lick of sense can see the danger you point out. If we continue to show sympathy for sick people who commit suicide, pretty soon healthy people will want to try it too.

I don't see anything wrong with it. Not everyone is strong and can make it.

[eDave]

I had a close friend who fell into depression because she couldn't have kids and she and her husband just couldn't get ahead and she got laid off. One day, she left counseling, grabbed a cab and drove from Phoenix to the Hoover Dam overpass (280 miles). Got out of the cab and jumped. Saw her just the night before and she was happy as a clam. Then, just like that, she was gone. Forever. This was last January.

Here is the story. She is in all black with the cab in the background. This one was hard to grasp for me.

http://www.casino.org/news/suicide-o...s-dirty-secret

You can see her 'happy' here:

https://www.facebook.com/chris.papayoti?fref=ts I've never known a man who loved his wife more than Chris. Almost nauseating at times.

Had 2 close friends in grade school kill themselves, a week apart, in some sort of suicide pact. The 3 of us were best friends. Had NO idea what was going on. But everyone thought I was next. That sucked too.

Me, as a creative person, have had my fair share of bad, bad thoughts.

On a side note, weed (Sativa) is wonderful for depression.

[Pepe Silvia]

Originally Posted by eDave

I had a close friend who fell into depression because she couldn't have kids and she and her husband just couldn't get ahead and she got laid off. One day, she left counseling, grabbed a cab and drove from Phoenix to the Hoover Dam overpass (280 miles). Got out of the cab and jumped. Saw her just the night before and she was happy as a clam. Then, just like that, she was gone. Forever. This was last January.

Here is the story. She is in all black with the cab in the background. This one was hard to grasp for me.

http://www.casino.org/news/suicide-o...s-dirty-secret

You can see her 'happy' here:

https://www.facebook.com/chris.papayoti?fref=ts I've never known a man who loved his wife more than Chris. Almost nauseating at times.

Had 2 close friends in grade school kill themselves, a week apart, in some sort of suicide pact. The 3 of us were best friends. Had NO idea what was going on. But everyone thought I was next. That sucked too.

Me, as a creative person, have had my fair share of bad, bad thoughts.

On a side note, weed (Sativa) is wonderful for depression.

This kid I went to HS with committed suicide. He had just graduated college, got a new job/House, and was about to be married. He went to St. Louis to do some last minute things for his wedding. They found him hanging in his hotel room. It didn't make any sense. He was picked on a lot in school but he had already moved on, it was very weird.

[Hammock Parties]

Looks like he's getting an NPC avatar in World of Warcraft.

Robin Williams was not only an excellent comedian but also a game enthusiast, he said that he enjoys Warcraft III very much in an interview a few years ago, and was even apart of the mmorpg World of Warcraft.

It was reported that Robin used to play on the Mannoroth server, and was something of a troll in trade on good days or when anonymity allowed. Mr. Williams said in interviews that he took his World of Warcraft characters very serious – in fact he was well known for being an extreme PC builder who preferred to build his own overclocked and super-cooled systems.

He often joked about his WoW addiction but also about the reactions he’d get from other gamers when he admits he plays the game.

Because of his presence within our community, we the players of World of Warcraft are asking Blizzard to kindly create an NPC within the game that memorializes the actor/comedian. Many have expressed a wish to this character perform some of Williams best jokes within the Worlds End Tavern, so that he may continue making us smile long after his passing.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Count Zarth

Looks like he's getting an NPC avatar in World of Warcraft.

Pretty cool. Blizzard will do it.

BUT, I am NOT getting sucked back into that game.

[BucEyedPea]

I read Williams had financial problems. Could have been the trigger. Anyhow, his death is sure overshadowing yesterday's death of Lauren Bacall.

[Demonpenz]

I about posted a picture of my notebooks that along with my lexipro I have a strict writing routine where I often write the same things over and over throughout my day to keep my mind from going to dark places. Most people are like horrified that this is the way I live my life, but it is not to shabby. I have an apartment, friends, sometimes girlfriend, and I do get relief from talking about it. It is exhausting staying on top of it sometimes. So I can understand getting crushed to the point where enough is enough.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

I read Williams had financial problems. Could have been the trigger. Anyhow, his death is sure overshadowing yesterday's death of Lauren Bacall.

Spoken like a normie...Depressed people can be free being poor as hell and in deep legal financial trouble, and have all the money in the bank and want to kill themselves. It knows no outside forces. All internal brosef.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I about posted a picture of my notebooks that along with my lexipro I have a strict writing routine where I often write the same things over and over throughout my day to keep my mind from going to dark places. Most people are like horrified that this is the way I live my life, but it is not to shabby. I have an apartment, friends, sometimes girlfriend, and I do get relief from talking about it. It is exhausting staying on top of it sometimes. So I can understand getting crushed to the point where enough is enough.

[mikey23545]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I about posted a picture of my notebooks that along with my lexipro I have a strict writing routine where I often write the same things over and over throughout my day to keep my mind from going to dark places. Most people are like horrified that this is the way I live my life, but it is not to shabby. I have an apartment, friends, sometimes girlfriend, and I do get relief from talking about it. It is exhausting staying on top of it sometimes. So I can understand getting crushed to the point where enough is enough.

Hope you don't hate me for saying you're pathetic.

Get your ****ing mind off yourself for about ten minutes and you might find there's a world out there.

Oops, I guess I'm a normie.

[Bearcat]

I remember when penz was funny.