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Old 06-24-2018, 08:08 AM  
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All-time Best 11 Players by Team-AFC West_NFL.com

It's the offseason so clickbait but whaddya' think? Are there enough Olinemen on the picks for KC? How does San Diego not have a SB with all the studs they've had? Doyou agree that Elway should have been on the Denver list twice because he's just that good? **** the Faiders.

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1) Derrick Thomas, OLB (1989-1999)
2) Tony Gonzalez, TE (1997-2008)
3) Len Dawson, QB (1962-1975)
4) Willie Lanier, LB (1967-1977)
5) Will Shields, OG (1993-2006)
6) Bobby Bell, LB (1963-1974)
7) Buck Buchanan, DT (1963-1975)
8) Priest Holmes, RB (2001-07)
9) Emmitt Thomas, DB (1966-1978)
10) Eric Berry, S (2010-present)
11) Johnny Robinson, S (1960-1971)
Coach: Hank Stram (1960-1974)


As historic as Dawson's contributions are to the Chiefs franchise, and as iconic as this hardcore picture of him smoking a cig during Super Bowl I's halftime is, Thomas and Gonzalez are the superior players. The two were statistical marvels and matchup nightmares in their time and are both top-five all-timers at their respective positions.

After the top six, it's tough sledding. As with Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles, Holmes had a brief-but-historic run of play with Kansas City after the turn of the century. Of the three tailbacks, Holmes' three-season stretch of 6,566 total yards stands out as the most noteworthy accomplishment. That and his three first-team All-Pros.

The back end is dominated by secondary studs, including Berry, the lone active Chief on this list. Seven years into his career, Berry (who is apparently nicknamed the Fifth Dimension?) has already earned a spot, thanks to his consistent play, leadership ability and one hell of a comeback story.

I ran out of room for fan favorites like Charles, Christian Okoye and Otis Taylor.

DT Tribute video included in article:
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Old 06-24-2018, 10:36 AM   #31
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First of all DT is not the greatest, he's not even the greatest LB in team history...Bell and Lanier were great all around LB's and went to two Super Bowls (remember sacks weren't a stat when they played) Also, list loses credibility wit the comment after the first six...total BS...Buchanan is on any greatest Chiefs list no questions asked Finally Priest had great numbers no doubt but in Leonard is so high up how did he get there...Taylor has to be on that list in place of Holmes.
Wow bro just how old are you?
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Old 06-24-2018, 10:37 AM   #32
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I can't argue with the names on the list, but can not agree with the order.

As great as DT was, Bobby Bell should be number 1 , with Willie Lanier, my favorite player ever, at 2.

DT comes in at 3 for me, and as much as I dislike TG, he would have to come in at 4.

While I would agree that Charles was the mote talented RB, if you include impact, Holmes does belong on this list ahead of him.
Why do you dislike TG?
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Old 06-24-2018, 02:53 PM   #37
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Priest had one of the best 3 year runs by a RB behind that OL and he wasn’t as talented as Charles.

I can’t even imagine what Jamaal would have done with Priest Holmes OL.
Priest basically averaged 1600 rushing yards, 600 receiving yards and 20 TDs from 2001-2003. Then if you extrapolate the 8 games he played in 2004 before going down with injury, he was on pace for another 1800 yards and 28 TDs. It's insane.
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Priest had one of the best 3 year runs by a RB behind that OL and he wasn’t as talented as Charles.

I can’t even imagine what Jamaal would have done with Priest Holmes OL.
this is like saying if Trent Green had any of Alex Smith's defenses that held teams to only field goals in the playoffs or under 20 points per game then Trent probably takes us to a Super Bowl and is the Chiefs GOAT at QB.
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Here's my list. I'm assuming that "best players" means the best at their position and not the most important to the franchise.

Chiefs:

1. Tony Gonzalez
2. Will Shields
3. Buck Buchanan
4. Len Dawson
5. Willie Lanier
6. Derrick Thomas
7. Bobby Bell
8. Albert Lewis
9. Jamaal Charles
10. Deron Cherry

Chargers

1. Ladainian Tomlinson
2. Ed White
3. Kellen Winslow
4. Phillip Rivers
5. Antonio Gates
6. Junior Seau (who leaps about in joy at hearing his name)
7. Leslie O'Neal
8. Lance Alworth
9. Ron Mix
10. Dan Fouts

Raiders

1. Art Shell
2. Gene Upshaw
3. Marcus Allen
4. Cliff Branch
5. Jim Otto
6. Shane Lechler
7. Willie Brown
8. Tim Brown
9. Ben Davidson
10. Howard Long

Broncos

1. Rod Smith
2. Thannon Tharpe
3. Karl Mecklenburg
4. Randy Gradishar
5. Al Wilson
6. Trevor Pryce
7. Steve Watson
8. Champ Bailey
9. Riley Odoms
10. Dennis Smith
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Priest basically averaged 1600 rushing yards, 600 receiving yards and 20 TDs from 2001-2003. Then if you extrapolate the 8 games he played in 2004 before going down with injury, he was on pace for another 1800 yards and 28 TDs. It's insane.
Also of note: Priest's longest runs in each season were 41, 56, and 31 yards. The man had 2000+ yards from scrimmage and damn near 30 TDs in 2003 yet his longest run was 31 yards. Also insane.

He had only 6 rushes of 40+ yards in his entire career. For comparison, Jamaal had two separate individual seasons in which he had 5 runs of 40+ yards.
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Old 06-24-2018, 03:07 PM   #41
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Here's my list. I'm assuming that "best players" means the best at their position and not the most important to the franchise.

Chiefs:

1. Tony Gonzalez
2. Will Shields
3. Buck Buchanan
4. Len Dawson
5. Willie Lanier
6. Derrick Thomas
7. Bobby Bell
8. Albert Lewis
9. Jamaal Charles
10. Deron Cherry

Chargers

1. Ladainian Tomlinson
2. Ed White
3. Kellen Winslow
4. Phillip Rivers
5. Antonio Gates
6. Junior Seau (who leaps about in joy at hearing his name)
7. Leslie O'Neal
8. Lance Alworth
9. Ron Mix
10. Dan Fouts

Raiders

1. Art Shell
2. Gene Upshaw
3. Marcus Allen
4. Cliff Branch
5. Jim Otto
6. Shane Lechler
7. Willie Brown
8. Tim Brown
9. Ben Davidson
10. Howard Long

Broncos

1. Rod Smith
2. Thannon Tharpe
3. Karl Mecklenburg
4. Randy Gradishar
5. Al Wilson
6. Trevor Pryce
7. Steve Watson
8. Champ Bailey
9. Riley Odoms
10. Dennis Smith
Well thought-out lists. I especially enjoy you including Lechler for the Faid and excluding Elway from Denver’s list.
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The list on the Chiefs is flawed, because two Chiefs who are in the Pro Football HOF aren't even included: Curly Culp and Jan Stenerud.

Otis Taylor should be on the list as well. It's criminal that he's not in the HOF. Johnny Robinson is starting to get some run now by the old timers committee.
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Well thought-out lists. I especially enjoy you including Lechler for the Faid and excluding Elway from Denver’s list.
I worked hard to stay true to my rule of only picking the best players.
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I can't argue with the names on the list, but can not agree with the order.

As great as DT was, Bobby Bell should be number 1 , with Willie Lanier, my favorite player ever, at 2.

DT comes in at 3 for me, and as much as I dislike TG, he would have to come in at 4.

While I would agree that Charles was the mote talented RB, if you include impact, Holmes does belong on this list ahead of him.
Agree 100% on Bell. Dude simply was ahead of his time. I'm convinced that if he played in the sack era, he would be that reference LB and not Lawrence Taylor.

He and Buchanan don't get the love they deserve. I've watched that stitched together copy of Super Bowl 1 numerous times, and Buck was practically unstoppable in that game. He was killing it. And when you hear Hog Hannah talk about him, he was a monster. Those two guys are my 1 and 2 with Lanier at 3. That defense, with those 3 guys, and 2 more (possibly a 3rd) HOFers on it was an all time great team.
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