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Old 06-24-2018, 08:08 AM  
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All-time Best 11 Players by Team-AFC West_NFL.com

It's the offseason so clickbait but whaddya' think? Are there enough Olinemen on the picks for KC? How does San Diego not have a SB with all the studs they've had? Doyou agree that Elway should have been on the Denver list twice because he's just that good? **** the Faiders.

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1) Derrick Thomas, OLB (1989-1999)
2) Tony Gonzalez, TE (1997-2008)
3) Len Dawson, QB (1962-1975)
4) Willie Lanier, LB (1967-1977)
5) Will Shields, OG (1993-2006)
6) Bobby Bell, LB (1963-1974)
7) Buck Buchanan, DT (1963-1975)
8) Priest Holmes, RB (2001-07)
9) Emmitt Thomas, DB (1966-1978)
10) Eric Berry, S (2010-present)
11) Johnny Robinson, S (1960-1971)
Coach: Hank Stram (1960-1974)


As historic as Dawson's contributions are to the Chiefs franchise, and as iconic as this hardcore picture of him smoking a cig during Super Bowl I's halftime is, Thomas and Gonzalez are the superior players. The two were statistical marvels and matchup nightmares in their time and are both top-five all-timers at their respective positions.

After the top six, it's tough sledding. As with Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles, Holmes had a brief-but-historic run of play with Kansas City after the turn of the century. Of the three tailbacks, Holmes' three-season stretch of 6,566 total yards stands out as the most noteworthy accomplishment. That and his three first-team All-Pros.

The back end is dominated by secondary studs, including Berry, the lone active Chief on this list. Seven years into his career, Berry (who is apparently nicknamed the Fifth Dimension?) has already earned a spot, thanks to his consistent play, leadership ability and one hell of a comeback story.

I ran out of room for fan favorites like Charles, Christian Okoye and Otis Taylor.

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Old 06-24-2018, 08:10 AM   #2
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Denver Broncos
1) John Elway, QB (1983-1998)
2) Terrell Davis, RB (1995-2001)
3) Steve Atwater, S (1989-1998)
4) Shannon Sharpe, TE (1990-99, 2002-03)
5) Rod Smith, WR (1995-2007)
6) Floyd Little, RB (1967-1975)
7) Champ Bailey, CB (2004-2013)
8) Karl Mecklenburg, LB (1983-1994)
9) Peyton Manning, QB (2012-15)
10) Von Miller, LB (2011-present)
11) Randy Gradishar, LB (1974-1983)
Coach: Mike Shanahan (1995-2008)


No debate at the top. This one's for John. The Bowlens might own the Broncos, but Elway is the Broncos. The Mile High legend's resume: seven division titles, five Super Bowl appearances, two Lombardis -- and, as Denver's general manager, one massive free-agent signing. Speaking of which ... For a QB who brought a franchise to two Super Bowls in just four years, Manning is objectively a little low on this list. But come on -- he's a horse of a different color -- a Colt -- and to honor him as a top-five Bronco would be to belittle the contributions of Atwater, Little, Smith and Mecklenburg, who were nearly all career-long Broncos.

Davis' run in the pros was short but Super, Super sweet: The three-time All-Pro and SB XXXII MVP is one of just seven backs rush for 2,000 yards in a season. Before he spent his mornings shutting up Skip Bayless, Sharpe was Elway's target of choice, and one of the game's most prolific tight ends. Miller has just seven years in the league, but the chicken farmer already has a Super Bowl MVP and three All-Pro selections to his name.

By a half-vote on my super-secretive closed ballot, Orange Crush fixture Gradishar edges out Gary Zimmerman, Demaryius Thomas and Tom Jackson. Sorry, Boom!

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Old 06-24-2018, 08:10 AM   #3
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1) LaDainian Tomlinson, RB (2001-09)
2) Junior Seau, LB (1990-2002)
3) Lance Alworth, WR (1962-1970)
4) Dan Fouts, QB (1973-1987)
5) Antonio Gates, TE (2003-2017)
6) Kellen Winslow Sr., TE (1979-1987)
7) Philip Rivers, QB (2004-present)
8) Charlie Joiner, WR (1976-1986)
9) Leslie O'Neal, DE/OLB (1986-1995)
10) Ron Mix, OT (1960-69)
11) Eric Weddle, S (2007-2015)
Coach: Sid Gillman (1960-1971)
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1) Jim Otto, C (1960-1974)
2) Gene Upshaw, OG (1967-1981)
3) Howie Long, DE (1981-1993)
4) Art Shell, OT (1968-1982)
5) Ken Stabler, QB (1968-1979)
6) Fred Biletnikoff, WR (1965-1978)
7) Marcus Allen, RB (1982-1992)
8) Tim Brown, WR (1988-2003)
9) Willie Brown, CB (1967-1978)
10) Cliff Branch, WR (1972-1985)
11) Ted Hendricks, LB (1975-1983)
Coach: John Madden (1969-1978)

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Old 06-24-2018, 08:18 AM   #6
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Charles was better than Holmes by a country mile. He just played on shit ass terrible teams.


Shields is top shelf.
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:20 AM   #7
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Charles was better than Holmes by a country mile. He just played on shit ass terrible teams.


Shields is top shelf.
What's the feeling among KC fans re: do you consider Roaf a Chief? If so it seems like he'd maybe be in there?
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Denver Broncos
1) Horseface Elway, QB (1983-1998)
2) Terrell Dufass RB (1995-2001)
3) Steve Atwater, S (1989-1998)
4) Shannon Twirp, TE (1990-99, 2002-03)
5) Rod Smith, WR (1995-2007)
6) Floyd Little, RB (1967-1975)
7) Chump Bailey, CB (2004-2013)
8) Karl Mecklenburg, LB (1983-1994)
9) Peyton Manning, QB 0.0 Quarterback rating against the Chiefs Nov 15 2015 (2012-15)
10) Von Miller, LB (2011-present)
11) Randy Gradishar, LB (1974-1983)
Coach: Mike Shanarat (1995-2008)



No debate at the top. This one's for John. The Bowlens might own the Broncos, but Elway is the Broncos. The Mile High legend's resume: seven division titles, five Super Bowl appearances, two Lombardis -- and, as Denver's general manager, one massive free-agent signing. Speaking of which ... For a QB who brought a franchise to two Super Bowls in just four years, Manning is objectively a little low on this list. But come on -- he's a horse of a different color -- a Colt -- and to honor him as a top-five Bronco would be to belittle the contributions of Atwater, Little, Smith and Mecklenburg, who were nearly all career-long Broncos.

Davis' run in the pros was short but Super, Super sweet: The three-time All-Pro and SB XXXII MVP is one of just seven backs rush for 2,000 yards in a season. Before he spent his mornings shutting up Skip Bayless, Sharpe was Elway's target of choice, and one of the game's most prolific tight ends. Miller has just seven years in the league, but the chicken farmer already has a Super Bowl MVP and three All-Pro selections to his name.

By a half-vote on my super-secretive closed ballot, Orange Crush fixture Gradishar edges out Gary Zimmerman, Demaryius Thomas and Tom Jackson. Sorry, Boom!

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Charles was better than Holmes by a country mile. He just played on shit ass terrible teams.


Shields is top shelf.
Agreed. Shields was great in every way and JC istbe best RB we have ever had. Only Thomlinson was better in the history of the division.
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What's the feeling among KC fans re: do you consider Roaf a Chief? If so it seems like he'd maybe be in there?
Roaf is a Chief. I would've put him at 11 instead of Robinson.
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In terms of value, I see Kelce pretty similar to Eric Berry.

Can you imagine our offense these last 4 years without Kelce? Think about the second half of the Titans game....
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Agreed. Shields was great in every way and JC istbe best RB we have ever had. Only Thomlinson was better in the history of the division.
I’d have to say Marcus Allen was better than Jamaal too.
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I’d have to say Marcus Allen was better than Jamaal too.
I'd take Terrell Davis over Charles any day of the week.
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