*** Official 2015-16 Mizzou Basketball Repository

[duncan_idaho]

Let's track all the shit that is and will be Kermit Anderson's second season at the helm of Mizzou's basketball program.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

VanLeer is a role player, nothing more. He can shoot and has good passing skills offensively.

But he has absolutely no chance in man situations against even average high major wings. Those guys will get to the cup at will.

He's Josh Kroenke, without the billionaire dad.

So if you took Matt Lawrence and made him worse, you'd have Cullen VanLeer?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So if you took Matt Lawrence and made him worse, you'd have Cullen VanLeer?

Yes.

He IS better than Danny Allouche, though. So they've got that going for them. Which is nice.

I do love the way the same crowd that loves Kim rushed to act like VanLeer was an underrated stud based on his play against the weak sisters (same with Puryear and Phillips).

All three players have major warts that show up as soon as you play legit competition.

[Mizzou_8541]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yes.

He IS better than Danny Allouche, though. So they've got that going for them. Which is nice.

I do love the way the same crowd that loves Kim rushed to act like VanLeer was an underrated stud based on his play against the weak sisters (same with Puryear and Phillips).

All three players have major warts that show up as soon as you play legit competition.

Well that sucks. I was hoping that Phillips would be one guy that could, at some point, be a really good player.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

Well that sucks. I was hoping that Phillips would be one guy that could, at some point, be a really good player.

If there is a guy that's capable of being a 'really good player' - he ain't playing for Kim Anderson. Or at the very least, he won't stick around long enough to become a really good player (the JWIII rule).

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yes.

He IS better than Danny Allouche, though. So they've got that going for them. Which is nice.

I do love the way the same crowd that loves Kim rushed to act like VanLeer was an underrated stud based on his play against the weak sisters (same with Puryear and Phillips).

All three players have major warts that show up as soon as you play legit competition.

We talked about this last year, but he did have no one else on that team last year and I didn't see him play his junior year when Pacific had more talent around him apparently. But Pacific didn't keep it close against a mediocre Glendale team and then followed it up getting dirt rolled by a very good Nixa squad.

Couple this with what my good friend says from the perspective of an assistant HS coach (yeah, that's not saying much but still) that he's not a D-1 ball player and didn't look the part from my perspective of a bird cage liner sports writer.

[ChiefsCountry]

I get the privilege of seeing Missouri/Illinois game tomorrow night in person. Glad I didn't have to pay a cent for the tickets.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I get the privilege of seeing Missouri/Illinois game tomorrow night in person. Glad I didn't have to pay a cent for the tickets.

Sign idea: "Are the real basketball players on strike?"

[Mizzou_8541]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If there is a guy that's capable of being a 'really good player' - he ain't playing for Kim Anderson. Or at the very least, he won't stick around long enough to become a really good player (the JWIII rule).

Not sure who exactly I should be pissed at for this situation, but this is unsat. I guess Middleton, Alden, and of course, Anderson are all at least partially responsible. And the blue hairs, though I guess Middleton had more to do with the hire then they did. Maybe Duncan can correct me. I'm just frustrated.

Edit: Not that I can do anything about it. My TSF donation is laughable.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by kepp

Sign idea: "Are the real basketball players on strike?"

Meh. I really don't give a damn about Mizzou basketball.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541

Not sure who exactly I should be pissed at for this situation, but this is unsat. I guess Middleton, Alden, and of course, Anderson are all at least partially responsible. And the blue hairs, though I guess Middleton had more to do with the hire then they did. Maybe Duncan can correct me. I'm just frustrated.

Edit: Not that I can do anything about it. My TSF donation is laughable.

I would place the most blame with Alden. Wolfe, Middleton, Loftin all involved in forcing Kim Anderson on him after Marshall said "no." Wolfe probably most heavily.

Middleton was also heavily involved in hiring Haith.

If Alden wasn't a pathetic POS at running a basketball program/hiring a coach, none of those guys are involved in the decision.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If there is a guy that's capable of being a 'really good player' - he ain't playing for Kim Anderson. Or at the very least, he won't stick around long enough to become a really good player (the JWIII rule).

Phillips and Puryear could be solid role players on a good team, off the bench types. Both are about two inches too short to be real impact players in most systems.

Both would actually be pretty good in Mike Anderson's system (which is the type of thing Kim should go to with this roster construction, but won't).

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Both would actually be pretty good in Mike Anderson's system (which is the type of thing Kim should go to with this roster construction, but won't).

When Frank Haith out 'Xs and Os' you, you're probably pretty bad at this.

Haith took guys that weren't his guys and managed to come up with a damn good rotation that was really just rotten-ass luck away from being a potential Final 4 squad. Now maybe that was all Nestor, but in either event, its shown more flexibility and creativity than Kim Anderson's ever demonstrated.

It's hilarious to me how bad he is at this. Can't recruit, can't coach, doesn't seem to have actually developed 'young men' as much as he's simply run them out of the program. There's not anything he actually does well. And while our facilities were state of the art 10 years ago, they've fallen back towards mid-pack so we've lost a fair amount of momentum. At this point, there's very little to suggest that we'll ever get this program back to any level of consistent success.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

When Frank Haith out 'Xs and Os' you, you're probably pretty bad at this.



Haith took guys that weren't his guys and managed to come up with a damn good rotation that was really just rotten-ass luck away from being a potential Final 4 squad. Now maybe that was all Nestor, but in either event, its shown more flexibility and creativity than Kim Anderson's ever demonstrated.



It's hilarious to me how bad he is at this. Can't recruit, can't coach, doesn't seem to have actually developed 'young men' as much as he's simply run them out of the program. There's not anything he actually does well. And while our facilities were state of the art 10 years ago, they've fallen back towards mid-pack so we've lost a fair amount of momentum. At this point, there's very little to suggest that we'll ever get this program back to any level of consistent success.

Agree. Yet the Kim defenders try to act like he's so much better than Haith and this is all his fault.

I'm not a huge Haith fan. I was glad he got booted. But if he was still the coach, you'd be looking at a starting lineup of:

Torren Jones (shouldn't have booted him for allegedly stealing from a non-teammate)
Jonathan Williams III
Danuel House
Kevin Punter
Wes Clark

Bench
Puryear (if Haith wanted him)

J3 and Clark would be much better as secondary/support players, and J3 would be much better with a big, strong guy beside him inside in Jones.

House and Punter provide your scoring punch.

That team would be weak-ish at the PG spot, but it wouldn't be completely awful there if you're just asking Clark to take care of the ball and play D.

It's also fair, considering how much Brown and Clarkson improved under Haith, to expect Clark would be a much better player than he is after two years of "development" under Kermit.

If Haith had survived last year, he would have had them back in the tournament again this year. Z

[Stanley Nickels]

Dumpster fire is a dumpster fire. Atrocious defense, poor fundamentals, no team communication. Who'da thunk.

[Bufkin]

Illinois is painfully average this year. Nothing says "tune up game" like having the opportunity to take down Mizzou in a double-digit win on the road.

[Bufkin]

Hold the phone ladies, 12-0 run by Mizzou. Kim Anderson working that CMU magic.