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Old 09-10-2017, 07:55 AM  
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Pulled nail out of tire but no leak. Plug it or not?

I was doing some work on my car and had the tires off of it. I noticed one of the tires had a nail in it. I was going to plug it but once I pulled the nail out I found it was only a short piece of nail, maybe a 1/4 inch, and after a squirt bottle test I don't see any air bubbles. Should I go ahead and ream it out and plug it or should I just leave it as is?
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:18 PM   #16
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Meh...so it may leak a little, that's why I have an air compressor in the garage.

What do you charge to patch a tire?
13 and I only use plug -patches.

They aren't money makers.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:22 PM   #17
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If it did not have enough depth to get into the steel belt package then leave it alone. You did not tell us how much tread the tire had but if it is 1/4 inch and the tread is 1/4 inch (8/32) then it will be fine, just leave it alone.

Patching it will have no effect unless it leaks*** but if it did break/ get into the steel belt package then plug/patching it is in order., even without an air leak. You don't want water getting to the steel belts for obvious reasons.

***NO tire manufacturer recommends patching a hole. Don't listen to the ****ing idiots as patching/ or using an external plug voids the warranty and the liability of the manufacturer. If the tire is a run flat, contact the manufacturer as procedures vary.


Sorry but I'm not sure any of this is actually correct...

Patching only makes the speed rating null and void.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:23 PM   #18
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:23 PM   #19
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Always patch, never plug.

But in your case, you should be fine without doing either.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:29 PM   #20
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I wouldn't put a hole all the way through if there isn't one.


And if there is i wouldn't plug it. Patch only IMO.
Very much this. The only thing you plug is ATV tires. They don't have enough rubber to grind down and attach the patch to.

Don't plug shit man.
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Old 09-10-2017, 12:32 PM   #21
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:02 PM   #22
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Sorry but I'm not sure any of this is actually correct...

Patching only makes the speed rating null and void.
A patch voids the warranty of the tire. Send one in or get inspected for an adjustment and they through it out.

You are right a plug/patch combo retains warranty and can reduce the speed rating of super high performance tires, Every tire maker is slightly different. I don't think it would affect an S or T rated tire but a Z or W it's a given concern if you drive at rated speeds.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:11 PM   #23
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:14 PM   #24
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Did you read this?

It means you must use a combo of a plug and a patch or a plug/patch to repair or they no longer stand behind the tire.

Cooper tire written tech bulletin 108

http://us.coopertire.com/CooperTires...n_108_0914.pdf

Please note: ANY REPAIRABLE INJURY TO THE TIRE MUST BE FILLED AND THE INNER LINER
MUST BE PROPERLY SEALED WITH A PATCH!

FAILURE TO FOLLOW THE RMA RECOMMENDED PROCEDURES COULD LEAD TO SUDDEN
TIRE FAILURE!
We remind you that plug type repairs made from the outside of a tire, pressure sealants and “blowout
patches” are TEMPORARY repairs and should NOT be used except in emergencies. If such a
temporary repair is made, your customer should be clearly warned that the repair is temporary and
that they must drive cautiously to the nearest full service tire facility for a proper repair. Driving on an
improperly or temporarily repaired tire can lead to sudden tire failure.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:27 PM   #25
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:32 PM   #26
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I'd still get it looked at if any concern. I've been ****ed with tires at an unreasonable rate though so a bit paranoid.
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:36 PM   #27
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Did you read this?

It means you must use a combo of a plug and a patch or a plug/patch to repair or they no longer stand behind the tire.

Cooper tire written tech bulletin 108

http://us.coopertire.com/CooperTires...n_108_0914.pdf

Please note: ANY REPAIRABLE INJURY TO THE TIRE MUST BE FILLED AND THE INNER LINER
MUST BE PROPERLY SEALED WITH A PATCH!

FAILURE TO FOLLOW THE RMA RECOMMENDED PROCEDURES COULD LEAD TO SUDDEN
TIRE FAILURE!
We remind you that plug type repairs made from the outside of a tire, pressure sealants and “blowout
patches” are TEMPORARY repairs and should NOT be used except in emergencies. If such a
temporary repair is made, your customer should be clearly warned that the repair is temporary and
that they must drive cautiously to the nearest full service tire facility for a proper repair. Driving on an
improperly or temporarily repaired tire can lead to sudden tire failure.
yeah i read it.

I've already stated that i ONLY use plug - patches, so when i say " patch" that's what I'm talking about
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Old 09-10-2017, 02:57 PM   #28
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Old 09-10-2017, 03:02 PM   #29
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Old 09-10-2017, 03:13 PM   #30
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yeah i read it.

I've already stated that i ONLY use plug - patches, so when i say " patch" that's what I'm talking about
Those of us from the industry have gotten used to referencing Plug/patches as "Patches"





This is a installed plug/patch on a motorcycle tire and a plug patch before install. Any other method that does not fill the void, sealing water and air from the belt package, and sealing the inner lining, keeping air from both leaking out of the tire and from entering the belt package, voids both the tires manufactures warranty, liability, and the speed rating on all passenger and light truck tires.

Multiple repairs and severity affect the tires ability to preform at advanced speeds but every tire company is different as some maintain their speed ratings and others reduce or void then altogether.
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