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pugsnotdrugs19 · 05:54 PM

SEE POST #11 FIRST

... the word in the Chiefs building is that they would like to trade up for QB Patrick Mahomes or RB Christian McCaffrey in the first round. If this falls through, he said they like ILB Zach Cunningham a lot as well.

Chief Roundup · 04-22-2017, 04:38 PM

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Then you might want to read up on the salary cap.

That extra year saves them like 15-ish million against the salary cap on a great QB for that 5th year.

Heck, nowadays it might save them 15 million for an above-average QB.

Not to mention that it gives you one more year to work with in case some injury or something messes with your evaluation time.

Shit $15 million gets a team Mike Glennon......

Red Dawg · 04-22-2017, 05:43 PM

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Shit $15 million gets a team Mike Glennon......

The league has gone to not caring what you've done to but what it cost by the need and position. A starting vet QB gets 15 mil at the lowest right now. Rookie QBs that are good like Carr are a luxury and lucky one to have. He will break the Raiders bank when his deal comes due. Cooper will be let go because the will have to pay Mack as well. No way they let

TambaBerry · 04-22-2017, 06:46 PM

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Terez Paylor just released his 3rd mock and mocked us Tyus Bowser. Love this kids game, but would still like Webb first.

My god if we take a pussy ass shrimp ILB like Zach Cunningham over a QB or edge rusher with the talent there, I think that's grounds for outrage.

Fortunately Dorsey isn't stupid.

Bowser is the guy I want them to pick

**BossChief** · 04-22-2017, 09:22 PM

Seattle, Oakland and Dallas really hit it big.

Mid round QBs that can play at a high level -right away- as rookies...that's good stuff.

Our kid would need to sit a year, but would also have that 5th year option over guys like them after being a 1st round pick.

So, esentially that's a wash...years wise. The team gets the player for 4 cheap years.

nychief · 04-22-2017, 09:23 PM

http://nypost.com/2017/04/22/studyin...ms-at-picking/

Mother****erJones · 04-22-2017, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Seattle, Oakland and Dallas really hit it big.

Mid round QBs that can play at a high level -right away- as rookies...that's good stuff.

Our kid would need to sit a year, but would also have that 5th year option over guys like them after being a 1st round pick.

So, esentially that's a wash...years wise. The team gets the player for 4 cheap years.

Carr was a 2nd round pick

**SAUTO** · 04-23-2017, 09:37 AM

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Carr was a 2nd round pick

He didn't say anything different

Mr. Laz · 04-23-2017, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Bowser is the guy I want them to pick

He plays more like a strong safety than a DE/OLB.

Whichever team selects him will have to send him to Chuck Smith for 6 months.

O.city · 04-24-2017, 08:55 AM

They chiwfs may very well want one of these qbs, but I'm wondering if they're trying to smoke some other teams to trade up in front of them to drop a certain player

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-24-2017, 09:12 AM

I wish the espionage and smokescreens existed like you guys think

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-24-2017, 01:25 PM

One thing that I could get behind if all of the good QB options go early...

1st Round - Reuben Foster, who it sounds like might completely fall out of the first round now..
and
2nd Round - Sidney Jones, arguably the top CB in the draft before his injury, would likely be able to play early in the season

That would load the defense up in a big, big way.

DJ's left nut · 04-24-2017, 01:29 PM

I loved the idea of Jones in the 2nd until I actually did it in the CP Mock for Denver.

There are so so SO many CBs in this draft that will be able to contribute on day 1 that I'd have a really hard time biting on Jones before the early 3rd. I might do it, don't get me wrong, but it's not a slam-dunk by any stretch. If someone like Quincy Wilson is there at the same spot (or another of the 5-6 CBs that will likely go in that range that could start for someone at some point next season), I have a hard time pulling the trigger on a guy that wasn't that twitchy to begin with and how's red-shirting with no guarantee of a full recovery.

Jones is more of a 3rd rounder to me at this point.

KChiefs1 · 04-24-2017, 01:31 PM

http://www.chiefsdigest.com/handicap...raft-position/

Handicapping the Chiefs 2017 draft by position

by Matt Derrick/ April 24, 2017

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — The Kansas City Chiefs have 10 selections to spend in the upcoming NFL draft, and that currency could go a long toward providing the missing element to help the team sustain a deep playoff run in 2017.

But how likely are the Chiefs to target different positions? Here’s a breakdown of how possibility the Chiefs target each group during this weekend’s draft:

QUARTERBACK: VERY HIGH
The Chiefs appear destined to select a quarterback during the draft with only the timing up for debate. Do the Chiefs use their stockpile of picks to move up in the first round, or do they hope the top tier QB of their choice falls to No. 27?

Perhaps the Chiefs use a second-round pick on a less praised quarterback, or instead uses a late-round developmental project. All options are on the table.

RUNNING BACK: HIGH
The 2017 draft is deep at running back, and an impact player in the backfield could spark the Chiefs offense. The team’s rushing attacked ranked in the middle of the pack last season. Even when the team steamrolled for a season-high 238 yards against Denver in week 15, Spencer Ware and Charcandrick West accounted for 97 yards on 27 rushes while wide receiver Tyreek hill and quarterback Alex Smith totaled 141 yards on 10 carries. The Chiefs can use depth at RB, but also may be in the market for a workhorse to carry the load.

FULLBACK: VERY LOW
Fullback Anthony Sherman signed a restructured contract last month to reduce his cap hit for the 2017 season. Cutting Sherman, still one of the top fullbacks in the league, would actually harm the team’s available cap space. Sherman stands eligible for free agency after the season, however, and the Chiefs may be in the market for a fullback among undrafted free agents for training camp.

WIDE RECEIVER: MEDIUM
Wide receiver is another position where teams cannot stockpile enough talent, but the Chiefs appear deep at the position for now. The team returns six receivers from last year’s team along with prospect Seantavius Jones. The Chiefs certainly want more receivers for training camp, and the team has shown interest in several receivers in the draft. Outside of a player with immediate impact ability, it’s hard to find an available roster spot in this group.

TIGHT END: LOW
The Chiefs are top heavy at tight end, with All-Pro Travis Kelce and three other returning tight ends. The team also added free agent Gavin Escobar to the mix. The team doesn’t necessarily need a tight end, but the team might be in the market for an upgrade, particularly for a blocking tight end.

OFFENSIVE LINE: LOW
The Chiefs remain very comfortable with their top six offensive linemen. Four of the teams starters are locked up long-term, including last year’s fouth-round pick Parker Ehinger who returns from a knee injury. The Chiefs also return swing tackle Jah Reid, and have a large group of veteran backups on the roster as well. Offensive line doesn’t appear to be an immediate or long-term need, but Dorsey has a history of finding overlooked gems late in the draft along the offensive line.

DEFENSIVE LINE: HIGH
The release of veteran Jaye Howard increases the likelihood the Chiefs target the defensive line during the draft. The Chiefs do not lack for bodies along the line — the team currently carries eight defensive lineman. But outside rising second-year player Chris Jones and veteran free agent Bennie Logan, the group has plenty of question marks. The Chiefs appear particularly light at depth at defensive tackle behind Logan.

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER: HIGH
General manager John Dorsey carries a reputation for drafting for future needs, and perhaps no longterm outlook on the roster remains more cloudy than who will rush the passer in 2018. The team has yet to make a decision on Dee Ford’s option year for next season at an approximate cost of $10 million. Tamba Hali remains under contract, but will be 34 next season with a cap hit of just $1.583 million to release. Justin Houston also has a potential contract out if the team must cut costs. The Chiefs certainly need depth at edge rusher, and Dorsey drafted Ford in 2014 when Houston’s future with the team hung in the balance.

INSIDE LINEBACKER: HIGH
Inside linebacker poses another opportunity for drafting for future need while providing insurance for the coming season. Derrick Johnson turns 35 this season and is recovering from his second ruptured Achilles injury. Ramik Wilson performed ably in Johnson’s absence, but Justin-March-Lillard missed much of the season with an injury. There are several high-impact inside linebackers who could go in the first and second rounds without as much value in the later rounds.

CORNERBACK: VERY HIGH
Dorsey ranks this year’s cornerback class as the deepest in 10 years. The Chiefs experience with injuries a year ago illustrated that you can never have to many guys that can cover. The team seems a lock to go cornerback at some point in the draft, and the depth of this year’s class creates value in the middle to late rounds when the Chiefs picks are bountiful.

SAFETY: VERY LOW
Safety may be among the team’s deepest positions with veterans Eric Berry, Ron Parker and Daniel Sorensen returning. The team also carries last year’s fourth-round pick Eric Murray. Safety doesn’t appear to be a significant position of need for 2017 or beyond.

KICKER: VERY LOW
The Chiefs recently re-signed the reliable Cairo Santos for the 2017 season. His cap hit of $1.797 million is reasonable for his production. Taking a chance on a rookie kicker poses risks for a team with lofty playoff ambitions.

PUNTER: LOW
Dustin Colquitt is in the final season of a five-year contract that makes him the highest-paid punter in the league. He carries a cap hit of $4.9 million, but saves $4.1 million if released. Colquitt also remains one of the top punters in the league and is a reliable kick holder as well. Replacing Colquitt this season is possible but not likely.

———-

Matt Derrick is the lead beat writer for ChiefsDigest.com.

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**RealSNR** · 04-24-2017, 01:40 PM

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Perhaps the Chiefs use a second-round pick on a less praised quarterback, or instead uses a late-round developmental project. All options are on the table.

Set phasers to AIDS

Kiimo · 04-24-2017, 01:52 PM

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Set phasers to AIDS

04-17-2017, 02:02 PM
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pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9149447	One thing that I could get behind if all of the good QB options go early... 1st Round - Reuben Foster, who it sounds like might completely fall out of the first round now.. and 2nd Round - Sidney Jones, arguably the top CB in the draft before his injury, would likely be able to play early in the season That would load the defense up in a big, big way.
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04-24-2017, 01:29 PM	#477
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $3019099	I loved the idea of Jones in the 2nd until I actually did it in the CP Mock for Denver. There are so so SO many CBs in this draft that will be able to contribute on day 1 that I'd have a really hard time biting on Jones before the early 3rd. I might do it, don't get me wrong, but it's not a slam-dunk by any stretch. If someone like Quincy Wilson is there at the same spot (or another of the 5-6 CBs that will likely go in that range that could start for someone at some point next season), I have a hard time pulling the trigger on a guy that wasn't that twitchy to begin with and how's red-shirting with no guarantee of a full recovery. Jones is more of a 3rd rounder to me at this point. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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04-24-2017, 01:31 PM	#478
KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	http://www.chiefsdigest.com/handicap...raft-position/ Handicapping the Chiefs 2017 draft by position by Matt Derrick/ April 24, 2017 KANSAS CITY, Mo. — The Kansas City Chiefs have 10 selections to spend in the upcoming NFL draft, and that currency could go a long toward providing the missing element to help the team sustain a deep playoff run in 2017. But how likely are the Chiefs to target different positions? Here’s a breakdown of how possibility the Chiefs target each group during this weekend’s draft: QUARTERBACK: VERY HIGH The Chiefs appear destined to select a quarterback during the draft with only the timing up for debate. Do the Chiefs use their stockpile of picks to move up in the first round, or do they hope the top tier QB of their choice falls to No. 27? Perhaps the Chiefs use a second-round pick on a less praised quarterback, or instead uses a late-round developmental project. All options are on the table. RUNNING BACK: HIGH The 2017 draft is deep at running back, and an impact player in the backfield could spark the Chiefs offense. The team’s rushing attacked ranked in the middle of the pack last season. Even when the team steamrolled for a season-high 238 yards against Denver in week 15, Spencer Ware and Charcandrick West accounted for 97 yards on 27 rushes while wide receiver Tyreek hill and quarterback Alex Smith totaled 141 yards on 10 carries. The Chiefs can use depth at RB, but also may be in the market for a workhorse to carry the load. FULLBACK: VERY LOW Fullback Anthony Sherman signed a restructured contract last month to reduce his cap hit for the 2017 season. Cutting Sherman, still one of the top fullbacks in the league, would actually harm the team’s available cap space. Sherman stands eligible for free agency after the season, however, and the Chiefs may be in the market for a fullback among undrafted free agents for training camp. WIDE RECEIVER: MEDIUM Wide receiver is another position where teams cannot stockpile enough talent, but the Chiefs appear deep at the position for now. The team returns six receivers from last year’s team along with prospect Seantavius Jones. The Chiefs certainly want more receivers for training camp, and the team has shown interest in several receivers in the draft. Outside of a player with immediate impact ability, it’s hard to find an available roster spot in this group. TIGHT END: LOW The Chiefs are top heavy at tight end, with All-Pro Travis Kelce and three other returning tight ends. The team also added free agent Gavin Escobar to the mix. The team doesn’t necessarily need a tight end, but the team might be in the market for an upgrade, particularly for a blocking tight end. OFFENSIVE LINE: LOW The Chiefs remain very comfortable with their top six offensive linemen. Four of the teams starters are locked up long-term, including last year’s fouth-round pick Parker Ehinger who returns from a knee injury. The Chiefs also return swing tackle Jah Reid, and have a large group of veteran backups on the roster as well. Offensive line doesn’t appear to be an immediate or long-term need, but Dorsey has a history of finding overlooked gems late in the draft along the offensive line. DEFENSIVE LINE: HIGH The release of veteran Jaye Howard increases the likelihood the Chiefs target the defensive line during the draft. The Chiefs do not lack for bodies along the line — the team currently carries eight defensive lineman. But outside rising second-year player Chris Jones and veteran free agent Bennie Logan, the group has plenty of question marks. The Chiefs appear particularly light at depth at defensive tackle behind Logan. OUTSIDE LINEBACKER: HIGH General manager John Dorsey carries a reputation for drafting for future needs, and perhaps no longterm outlook on the roster remains more cloudy than who will rush the passer in 2018. The team has yet to make a decision on Dee Ford’s option year for next season at an approximate cost of $10 million. Tamba Hali remains under contract, but will be 34 next season with a cap hit of just $1.583 million to release. Justin Houston also has a potential contract out if the team must cut costs. The Chiefs certainly need depth at edge rusher, and Dorsey drafted Ford in 2014 when Houston’s future with the team hung in the balance. INSIDE LINEBACKER: HIGH Inside linebacker poses another opportunity for drafting for future need while providing insurance for the coming season. Derrick Johnson turns 35 this season and is recovering from his second ruptured Achilles injury. Ramik Wilson performed ably in Johnson’s absence, but Justin-March-Lillard missed much of the season with an injury. There are several high-impact inside linebackers who could go in the first and second rounds without as much value in the later rounds. CORNERBACK: VERY HIGH Dorsey ranks this year’s cornerback class as the deepest in 10 years. The Chiefs experience with injuries a year ago illustrated that you can never have to many guys that can cover. The team seems a lock to go cornerback at some point in the draft, and the depth of this year’s class creates value in the middle to late rounds when the Chiefs picks are bountiful. SAFETY: VERY LOW Safety may be among the team’s deepest positions with veterans Eric Berry, Ron Parker and Daniel Sorensen returning. The team also carries last year’s fourth-round pick Eric Murray. Safety doesn’t appear to be a significant position of need for 2017 or beyond. KICKER: VERY LOW The Chiefs recently re-signed the reliable Cairo Santos for the 2017 season. His cap hit of $1.797 million is reasonable for his production. Taking a chance on a rookie kicker poses risks for a team with lofty playoff ambitions. PUNTER: LOW Dustin Colquitt is in the final season of a five-year contract that makes him the highest-paid punter in the league. He carries a cap hit of $4.9 million, but saves $4.1 million if released. Colquitt also remains one of the top punters in the league and is a reliable kick holder as well. Replacing Colquitt this season is possible but not likely. ———- Matt Derrick is the lead beat writer for ChiefsDigest.com. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________
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