There's Speeding...then there's SPEEDING

[gblowfish]

Sorry if a re-post. Dude clocked going over 200 mph in a Mustang in Oklahoma:

http://www.kmbc.com/article/man-arre...rnpike/8300966

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol says a state trooper arrested a driver after clocking his speed at more than 200 mph.

The patrol says Trooper Ryan Smith pulled over the man Saturday on the Kilpatrick Turnpike in Oklahoma City. Authorities say the man was driving a Ford Mustang and the trooper's radar clocked the car at 176 mph and then 208 mph.

Authorities say the driver attempted to elude the state trooper -- turning off his headlights and brake lights at one point -- but he was eventually pulled over at a red light. The highway patrol says the driver stopped his car and dropped his keys out of the window.

The highway patrol says the driver was arrested on complaints of reckless driving and felony eluding.

[Baby Lee]

This is considerably above 208, but to give you a sense of proportion

[Sideburn]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Let me put it this way:

We built a TWIN Supercharged 6.4L w/a 6-speed. The motor alone had over $40K in it....and that's before the forced induction components....

It topped out at 209 MPH on a DYNO...not even a street. That was at 20 PSI, 800ft lbs of Torque and 900HP.

Sounds like a beast.

That really is it though. I don't think people realize what it takes to hit 200. Super exotics have a hard time achieving it. It's not just power...it's gearing, aero, tires, driver...all working fluidly together to hit a speed like that. A 19 year old in a 5 year old stang isn't doing it.

It reminds me of when there is a major drug bust out on I-40 and the cops are like 1.7 million dollars worth of high grade pot stopped. Then they tally it up and it's like 20 lbs. and it looks like ditch weed. Sure 1.7 mill sounds great, but no one is buying that story.

[Sideburn]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

This is considerably above 208, but to give you a sense of proportion

I loved that show. American version never seemed to grab me like that one did.
There is a video out from a couple years ago, 13' I believe, where a majorly modded ford gt hit 279.9 @ the texas mile. That's just stupid fast.
I think the Veyrons top speed is @ 257, but I imagine it's hard to get there. That's also dual v8s working to hit that too. Car weighs alot, but man it's pretty.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

You flee the cops at 200 mph hour but then you stop at a red light?

It's more likely that he was just going so fast that he could stop immediately so the cops slammed him with eluding too.

I've been there, done that.

Cops didn't add the eluding though, just gave me ticket for 135 m.p.h.

[Hamwallet]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

200 MPH is about more than just raw HP. You also need the appropriate gearing/transmission, tires and suspension. You're going to have hard time reaching 200 MPH w/o the appropriate gear ratio.

Sure, you could get away with no suspension mods but....most people who are dropping that kinda coin aren't gonna skip out on suspension and brakes.

You would need the computer remapped and the governor removed. You'd need an all new fuel delivery system to support the power, i.e Injectors, rails and pump.

Your estimate of 20-25K may even be on the low side once we factor in labor. Even if you do all the work on your own, you still need to pay a Dyno shop to tune it appropriately and remap the computer. That's a couple of grand right there. And we're just scratching the surface...

As people have said....sure it's doable...but you're gonna need one hella beastly car. The odds that some 19 y/o kid did all that? Pretty low.

Him not ACTUALLY going that fast....far more likely.

I had my GTO tuned a few times. It's normally 400-500 bucks. It's not a couple grand...

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Sideburn

I loved that show. American version never seemed to grab me like that one did.
There is a video out from a couple years ago, 13' I believe, where a majorly modded ford gt hit 279.9 @ the texas mile. That's just stupid fast.
I think the Veyrons top speed is @ 257, but I imagine it's hard to get there. That's also dual v8s working to hit that too. Car weighs alot, but man it's pretty.

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[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by Sideburn

Sounds like a beast.

That really is it though. I don't think people realize what it takes to hit 200. Super exotics have a hard time achieving it. It's not just power...it's gearing, aero, tires, driver...all working fluidly together to hit a speed like that. A 19 year old in a 5 year old stang isn't doing it.

It reminds me of when there is a major drug bust out on I-40 and the cops are like 1.7 million dollars worth of high grade pot stopped. Then they tally it up and it's like 20 lbs. and it looks like ditch weed. Sure 1.7 mill sounds great, but no one is buying that story.

I always find it amusing when cops give estimates on the value of a drug bust. They got 20 pounds of pot but will say that the value is the price per gram which is way more than anyone paid for the 20 pounds in the first place. But even at that they are quoting close to $190 per gram.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Hamwallet

I had my GTO tuned a few times. It's normally 400-500 bucks. It's not a couple grand...

What kind of tune? Tunes vary greatly depending on the mods. We're talking 200+ MPH, which means forced induction, which certainly means a complete remap of the fuel system all through the power band.

We build cars for a living. I work literally right next door to a Dyno tuning shop. Complete re-maps of the computer to support power adders easily reaches $2-3K.

I know. I pay the bill, lol.

@$150 an hour, a $500 tune is only 3 hrs of labor. Builds like ours are generally in there for 12-16hrs + Cold start cycles etc.

[Hamwallet]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

What kind of tune? Tunes vary greatly depending on the mods. We're talking 200+ MPH, which means forced induction, which certainly means a complete remap of the fuel system all through the power band.

We build cars for a living. I work literally right next door to a Dyno tuning shop. Complete re-maps of the computer to support power adders easily reaches $2-3K.

I know. I pay the bill, lol.

@$150 an hour, a $500 tune is only 3 hrs of labor. Builds like ours are generally in there for 12-16hrs + Cold start cycles etc.

No forced induction on mine. Heads, cam, intake, long tubes and your basic bolt on's. I was pretty heavy in the new gen GTO scene 8-10 years ago. I watched guys build their own twin turbo systems and spend 3-4 hours with good tuners and be on their way. Tuning has come along way, it's not nearly as expensive as some think.

I am old and boring now. I have a 3 series and a warranty. LoL

[Hamwallet]

Of course this was all in my central Florida years. Their where tuners all over the place. I bet it is more expensive in KC because you have like 2 options probably.

[Reerun_KC]

This has to be BS, no way you could go that fast on the Kilpatrick due to traffic and horrible OK road conditions...

Also the KP isnt that long either....

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Hamwallet

Of course this was all in my central Florida years. Their where tuners all over the place. I bet it is more expensive in KC because you have like 2 options probably.

Nah, im in SoCal. We're probably talking apples to oranges. We're not tuning factory ECU's most of the time. That's probably where our difference lays.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

They were on a switch, it's a "street car" like on street outlaws.

Hes part of a racing group.

But still those numbers are ****ing stupid

[Rasputin]

Great Scott the fastest I've ever gone was 88 mph in a DeLorean that made me go back in time to make this post in the future!

[Hamwallet]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Nah, im in SoCal. We're probably talking apples to oranges. We're not tuning factory ECU's most of the time. That's probably where our difference lays.

Yup, probably right. Never had problems on my GM cars with tuning the factory crap. My buddy has a 89' 240sx non hatch with a RB25 swap, greddy intake and a 76 mil turbo. He went through several local tuners with no luck. He finally had to drop a few grand on stand alone fuel management and a whole new ECU. Got everything hooked up and 30 minutes later it was running like a top.