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Old 07-22-2012, 10:25 PM   #1
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Please illustrate Romeo Crennel's colossal ****ups in the three weeks he spent as Chiefs head coach.

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Sorry, I can't.

I just know in my gut that a team of Romeo, Daboll and Cassel is a freaking joke.

I mean, we should have someone who's accomplished something in their current position SOMEWHERE among those three positions if we want to actually beat people, don't you think?
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:32 PM   #2
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Sorry, I can't.

I just know in my gut that a team of Romeo, Daboll and Cassel is a freaking joke.

I mean, we should have someone who's accomplished something in their current position SOMEWHERE among those three positions if we want to actually beat people, don't you think?
Thanks for the truthful admission.

I think that Romeo is among the best Defensive Coordinators of the past two decades. He constantly puts his players in a position to "win" each series and I think that we can all say that we've seen obvious growth in older players such as DJ and in younger players such as Hali, Dorsey and even Jackson.

As for Daboll, I didn't follow Cleveland when both he and Romeo were in that dreadful organization. But I do know that no one has had any success since Bill Belichick's 1994 season. It's been a complete and utter black hole since returning to the league and Mike Holmgren, who had Super Bowl success in Green Bay and Seattle, is spinning his wheels in the mud in Cleveland.

Daboll took over a bad Miami offense last year and without the help of OTA's and Mini-camps, created an offense about six games in that scored something like 25 points a game. He made Reggie Bush a complete running back for the first time in career and made guys like Anthony Fasano and Matt Moore appear respectable. I'd like to think that with the Chiefs offensive line and weapons, he'll be able to pick up where he left off in Miami and oversee an extremely potent offense, despite Cassel's shortcomings.

I am making no predictions at this point in time but I am hopeful that this young teams takes a huge leap on offense and the defense becomes a top NFL unit with the return of Eric Berry, the continued maturation of Dorsey, Jackson, Houston, Belcher and Lewis, along with the additions of Poe and Menzie.

The future is brighter than it's been in decades, IMO.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:42 PM   #3
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Thanks for the truthful admission.

I think that Romeo is among the best Defensive Coordinators of the past two decades. He constantly puts his players in a position to "win" each series and I think that we can all say that we've seen obvious growth in older players such as DJ and in younger players such as Hali, Dorsey and even Jackson.

As for Daboll, I didn't follow Cleveland when both he and Romeo were in that dreadful organization. But I do know that no one has had any success since Bill Belichick's 1994 season. It's been a complete and utter black hole since returning to the league and Mike Holmgren, who had Super Bowl success in Green Bay and Seattle, is spinning his wheels in the mud in Cleveland.

Daboll took over a bad Miami offense last year and without the help of OTA's and Mini-camps, created an offense about six games in that scored something like 25 points a game. He made Reggie Bush a complete running back for the first time in career and made guys like Anthony Fasano and Matt Moore appear respectable. I'd like to think that with the Chiefs offensive line and weapons, he'll be able to pick up where he left off in Miami and oversee an extremely potent offense, despite Cassel's shortcomings.

I am making no predictions at this point in time but I am hopeful that this young teams takes a huge leap on offense and the defense becomes a top NFL unit with the return of Eric Berry, the continued maturation of Dorsey, Jackson, Houston, Belcher and Lewis, along with the additions of Poe and Menzie.

The future is brighter than it's been in decades, IMO.
I agree with you on Romeo as a Defensive Coordinator. I think he's a terrific coach and a terrific playcaller. And I agree that he is probably one of the better at both in the game right now.

As a head coach... he had some problems in Cleveland. You're right that maybe in his second stint, he fixes them. But we can't ignore that they happened. He has to be a better game manager in KC and he has to shed the reputation that he is soft on his players in a head coaching capacity. I hope he fixes those and I'm rooting for him to fix them. But for now, they're areas of concern for me until I see him prove those are things of the past.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:23 PM   #4
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He was black and 200 lbs lighter.
Yeah, well, he's black. Of course he's sucks at challenges.



Racist, much?
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Even if he won a couple games, the shine came off Romeo as soon as he showed he was cool with coaching a team led by Matt Cassel.

He's just collecting a paycheck.
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:35 PM   #6
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Even if he won a couple games, the shine came off Romeo as soon as he showed he was cool with coaching a team led by Matt Cassel.

He's just collecting a paycheck.
So, you would have preferred that he publicly call out the QB and GM?

Which planet do you live on, again?
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:41 PM   #7
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So, you would have preferred that he publicly call out the QB and GM?

Which planet do you live on, again?
I would have preferred he not take the job, and force Pioli to do something smart.

Romeo is smart enough to know he isn't winning shit with Cassel. He's not gonna turn down a nice raise, though.

It's kind of like a guy getting promoted to manager and running a restaurant that's going under. Why would he turn down the promotion?
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Old 07-22-2012, 10:43 PM   #8
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I would have preferred he not take the job, and force Pioli to do something smart.
You expect a man that's offered an NFL head coaching job to say "No"?

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Old 07-22-2012, 10:46 PM   #9
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You expect a man that's offered an NFL head coaching job to say "No"?

No, I don't. I'm not surprised he took the job.

That's a nice raise. Nice fat check to throw in the retirement fund right before retirement.
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If I had a choice of grabbing a beer with Haley or Pioli it would be Haley hands down. While neither are an angel in the situation I'm sure I'm pretty sure one of them isn't hiding behind upper management and bureaucracy.
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If I had a choice of grabbing a beer with Haley or Pioli it would be Haley hands down. While neither are an angel in the situation I'm sure I'm pretty sure one of them isn't hiding behind upper management and bureaucracy.
Haley's a ****ing moron. I feel sorry for Steelers fans.

While I have been extremely vocal in my dislike for many of Pioli's decisions, this roster is among the best and youngest in decades. Outside of the QB situation, he's done a fine job.
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I just hope that Cleveland really is/was the blackhole for successful coaches.
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But Chiefs GM Scott Pioli said Friday that Orton and the team have mutual interest in reuniting.

"We've talked to Kyle's people. It sounds like Kyle would like to be with us. We've told Kyle we'd like to continue to work with him. Now it's just a matter of seeing if things arrive at the right place," said Pioli,
They flat out lowballed him.

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"We made it abundantly clear to Kyle before he left for the offseason — and when the offseason started — that we would like to have him back and have him in this situation," Pioli said.

Instead, Orton agreed to a three-year deal with the Cowboys.

"I can't speak for Kyle in saying why he chose that situation," Pioli said, "but I know it was one heck of a contract he received. A very, very generous contract, which he earned."
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The flat out lowballed him.
http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2012/...llas-tony-romo

You didn’t want to go somewhere where you had a chance of competing to be the starter?

"Well I’ve kind of been in that situation the last three or four years just going into camp and competing. To be honest with you I don’t think that situation has worked for me. I don’t think it’s worked out for the club. I think you need to know who your guy is going to be going right into the season and backing that guy. I don’t think that’s been the situation that I have been in and I really didn’t want to get into that situation again. I’m fine with knowing my role as the backup on this team. I am going to be the best backup I can and support Tony [Romo] any way that I can."

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Yeah, it really sounds like he wanted a starting job in the NFL.

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Sounds to me like he wanted the Chiefs to pay him starter money to be the starter, and didn't want any part of competing with another piece of shit QB.

If the other option was Cassel, why not?
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