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0 to 10,000 - Not much wear and tear yet. 8 5.06%
10,001 to 20,000 - Just starting to get 'er broken in. 7 4.43%
20,001 to 30,000 - Entering the prime of automotive live. 4 2.53%
30,001 to 40,000 - Still haven't figured out how to dim the interior lights. 4 2.53%
40,001 to 50,000 - I'm learning how to adjust the various stereo settings now. 9 5.70%
50,0001 to 60,000 - Comfortable as a reasonably new shoe. 10 6.33%
60,001 to 70,000 - I've done a lot of things in that car. 9 5.70%
70,001 to 80,000 - I've really done a lot of things in that car. Strange things. 6 3.80%
80,0001 to 90,000 - I still had hair and low body fat when I bought this car. 8 5.06%
90,001 to 100,000 - Okay, it's broken in now. 8 5.06%
100,001 to 125,000 - I could parallel park this thing blindfolded. 20 12.66%
125,001 to 150,000 - I was driving this back when I gave a damn. 10 6.33%
150,001 to 175,000 - This is a classic. It's like fine wine. 24 15.19%
175,001 to 200,000 - I've spent several years of my life in this car. 9 5.70%
200,001 to 250,000 - The driver's seat has taken the shape of my rear end. 12 7.59%
250,001 to 300,000 - I take care of my stuff. 6 3.80%
300,001 or more - The car company is begging me to be in a commercial. 4 2.53%
I don't own a vehicle. I have to be jealous of your vehicle. 0 0%
I never look at the instrument panel when I drive. 0 0%
I roll back my odometer. I just jack it up and put it in reverse. 0 0%
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:33 AM  
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What's the Odometer Reading on your Daily Driver?
The apricot BMW just turned over 97,000 miles this weekend, which isn't bad for a 14 year-old car. It still looks pristine other than a couple of door dings and a mysterious dimple on top of the trunk.

What's your vehicle got, and how many miles can a vehicle have before you start thinking about selling it?
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:04 AM   #91
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:21 AM   #95
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:25 AM   #96
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When engine questions come up I will give you my canned answer to that. You will find that every vehicle/brand/motor, what have you, that have people who have had 0 problems, and those who swear they are big piles of junk.

But, that is all anecdotal. Now, anecdotal evidence is not always wrong. However, it provides no ground to stand on when trying to say yes or no is this a good vehicle. There is enough data out there to support which vehicles are good or bad by looking at vehicle lines, or in this case motors, as a whole.

The 3.7, 4.7, and even the 5.7 Chrysler motors have had lots of issues, not only is the design bad, but because of the design, they are prone to failure. The rule of thumb with Chryslers is that if it ends in a 7, stay away.





Chrysler screwed up when they stopped producing the 4.0. Ask Wrangler guys~

As for my top 3 motors, that is all anecdotal and not based on any stat line, I just know from many years in this business what motors consumers desperately want, and what they want to stay away from. There are lots of good motors out there. There are even more bad ones.
Great, so I've got that to look forward to....
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:23 AM   #97
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Chrysler screwed up when they stopped producing the 4.0. Ask Wrangler guys~
The 4.0L wasn't even a Chrysler engine. They inherited it from AMC. Chrysler did upgrade the electronics and ignition, though.

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No, it's the 3.7 V6, I think. Not worried about the motor, but the tranny has me concerned. I also just had to replace the shifter bezel for $1,200.00. Electrics are a concern as well.
shifter bezel? 1200 dollars? holy ****!!! I think you took a good hard one...
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shifter bezel? 1200 dollars? holy ****!!! I think you took a good hard one...
Probably, but I got dinner and a reach-around, too.
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You people with newish Fords are killing me.

And I bet they didn't do any market research ahead of time, either.
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How does this compare to gettign an ill advised tattoo?
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That 4.0 is bulletproof, will run forever, one of my top 3 legendary engines (ls1, 7.3l diesel) . 3.7 on the other hand is a POS. There's your difference.
I work on and think the 7.3 is a piece of shit. injector and wiring issues, glow plugs too, head gasket problems, high pressure oil pump issues...


all the diesel engines in a ford suck IMO, if I was to buy a diesel it would be a 12 valve cummins
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Probably, but I got dinner and a reach-around, too.
well I guess that is fair
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