All-time Best 11 Players by Team-AFC West_NFL.com

[vailpass]

It's the offseason so clickbait but whaddya' think? Are there enough Olinemen on the picks for KC? How does San Diego not have a SB with all the studs they've had? Doyou agree that Elway should have been on the Denver list twice because he's just that good? **** the Faiders.

Kansas City Chiefs
1) Derrick Thomas, OLB (1989-1999)
2) Tony Gonzalez, TE (1997-2008)
3) Len Dawson, QB (1962-1975)
4) Willie Lanier, LB (1967-1977)
5) Will Shields, OG (1993-2006)
6) Bobby Bell, LB (1963-1974)
7) Buck Buchanan, DT (1963-1975)
8) Priest Holmes, RB (2001-07)
9) Emmitt Thomas, DB (1966-1978)
10) Eric Berry, S (2010-present)
11) Johnny Robinson, S (1960-1971)
Coach: Hank Stram (1960-1974)


As historic as Dawson's contributions are to the Chiefs franchise, and as iconic as this hardcore picture of him smoking a cig during Super Bowl I's halftime is, Thomas and Gonzalez are the superior players. The two were statistical marvels and matchup nightmares in their time and are both top-five all-timers at their respective positions.

After the top six, it's tough sledding. As with Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles, Holmes had a brief-but-historic run of play with Kansas City after the turn of the century. Of the three tailbacks, Holmes' three-season stretch of 6,566 total yards stands out as the most noteworthy accomplishment. That and his three first-team All-Pros.

The back end is dominated by secondary studs, including Berry, the lone active Chief on this list. Seven years into his career, Berry (who is apparently nicknamed the Fifth Dimension?) has already earned a spot, thanks to his consistent play, leadership ability and one hell of a comeback story.

I ran out of room for fan favorites like Charles, Christian Okoye and Otis Taylor.

DT Tribute video included in article:
http://www.nfl.com/m/share?p=%2Fvide...Derrick-Thomas


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...amers-stack-up

[suzzer99]

For some reason Albert Lewis is always forgotten. He absolutely belongs on that list - somewhere in the middle imo.

[milkman]

I can't argue with the names on the list, but can not agree with the order.

As great as DT was, Bobby Bell should be number 1 , with Willie Lanier, my favorite player ever, at 2.

DT comes in at 3 for me, and as much as I dislike TG, he would have to come in at 4.

While I would agree that Charles was the mote talented RB, if you include impact, Holmes does belong on this list ahead of him.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Denver Broncos
1) John Elway, QB (1983-1998)
2) Terrell Davis, RB (1995-2001)
3) Steve Atwater, S (1989-1998)
4) Shannon Sharpe, TE (1990-99, 2002-03)
5) Rod Smith, WR (1995-2007)
6) Floyd Little, RB (1967-1975)
7) Champ Bailey, CB (2004-2013)
8) Karl Mecklenburg, LB (1983-1994)
9) Peyton Manning, QB (2012-15)
10) Von Miller, LB (2011-present)
11) Randy Gradishar, LB (1974-1983)
Coach: Mike Shanahan (1995-2008)


No debate at the top. This one's for John. The Bowlens might own the Broncos, but Elway is the Broncos. The Mile High legend's resume: seven division titles, five Super Bowl appearances, two Lombardis -- and, as Denver's general manager, one massive free-agent signing. Speaking of which ... For a QB who brought a franchise to two Super Bowls in just four years, Manning is objectively a little low on this list. But come on -- he's a horse of a different color -- a Colt -- and to honor him as a top-five Bronco would be to belittle the contributions of Atwater, Little, Smith and Mecklenburg, who were nearly all career-long Broncos.

Davis' run in the pros was short but Super, Super sweet: The three-time All-Pro and SB XXXII MVP is one of just seven backs rush for 2,000 yards in a season. Before he spent his mornings shutting up Skip Bayless, Sharpe was Elway's target of choice, and one of the game's most prolific tight ends. Miller has just seven years in the league, but the chicken farmer already has a Super Bowl MVP and three All-Pro selections to his name.

By a half-vote on my super-secretive closed ballot, Orange Crush fixture Gradishar edges out Gary Zimmerman, Demaryius Thomas and Tom Jackson. Sorry, Boom!

Don't watch this one KC Fan:
http://www.nfl.com/m/share?p=%2Fvide...QBs-John-Elway

The only people that remember that Peyton Manning was a Colt is Colts fans. For years to come when they show Peyton at the top of his game he'll be wearing orange. The Colts were Galacticly stupid to cut him.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by vailpass

I'd take Terrell Davis over Charles any day of the week.

Davis was good, but he benefited from one of the best offensive lines ever, and the offense also had great skill position players (Shannon Sharpe and the wife -beater)

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

The only people that remember that Peyton Manning was a Colt is Colts fans. For years to come when they show Peyton at the top of his game he'll be wearing orange. The Colts were Galacticly stupid to cut him.

With Denver Peyton set the NFL record for average points in a season while winning the West 5 years in a row and going to two Superbowls and winning one of them.
But he's a Colt.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by vailpass

I'd take Terrell Davis over Charles any day of the week.

Priest had one of the best 3 year runs by a RB behind that OL and he wasn’t as talented as Charles.

I can’t even imagine what Jamaal would have done with Priest Holmes OL.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Best22

Davis was good, but he benefited from one of the best offensive lines ever, and the offense also had great skill position players (Shannon Sharpe and the wife -beater)

Yes he did. But he wasn't good he was great imho. For four years.
Though he's in the HOF he's not in the conversation with the all-time greats because he didn't prove it for as long as they did.

[Prison Bitch]

Eric Berry has no business being on this list

One of the most overrated chiefs players ever

[notorious]

No way Manning is below those guys.

Just because he sucked ass the final year doesn't mean he wasn't historically great for the other 4.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by notorious

No way Manning is below those guys.

Just because he sucked ass the final year doesn't mean he wasn't historically great for the other 4.

True but I don't disagree with the OP in leaving Manning lower because he's not a full Bronco and the other guys are (though Champ had a cup of coffee in Washington first).

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Frankenmanning should never have been allowed to play a snap in Pile High. Using banned substances negates him from any list or accomplishments during that time.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Frankenmanning should never have been allowed to play a snap in Pile High. Using banned substances negates him from any list or accomplishments during that time.

I'd be fine if they allowed HGH fountains on the sidelines and players could bathe in it in the training room.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by vailpass

With Denver Peyton set the NFL record for average points in a season while winning the West 5 years in a row and going to two Superbowls and winning one of them.
But he's a Colt.

But he isn't. He did play for the Colts you are correct. They cut him because they thought he was done to pick up an underachieving Young Gun. Watch when they show highlights of him if he's in the news or something. There's a little bit of blue there but it's mostly and predominantly Orange. Peyton Manning's achievements in Denver are unique. Never has a quarterback gone to another team and won a Superbowl. It Breaks the Rules.

[Monkey God]

First of all DT is not the greatest, he's not even the greatest LB in team history...Bell and Lanier were great all around LB's and went to two Super Bowls (remember sacks weren't a stat when they played) Also, list loses credibility wit the comment after the first six...total BS...Buchanan is on any greatest Chiefs list no questions asked Finally Priest had great numbers no doubt but in Leonard is so high up how did he get there...Taylor has to be on that list in place of Holmes.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

But he isn't. He did play for the Colts you are correct. They cut him because they thought he was done to pick up an underachieving Young Gun. Watch when they show highlights of him if he's in the news or something. There's a little bit of blue there but it's mostly and predominantly Orange. Peyton Manning's achievements in Denver are unique. Never has a quarterback gone to another team and won a Superbowl. It Breaks the Rules.

Good points all and since it's completely subjective there isn't any right answer. I think that if surveyed the majority of NFL fans would say he's a Colt and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be close. Including his Denver teammates and coaches.