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Old 01-03-2013, 09:56 PM   #1
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But 1/16" is making a big difference on a line that could be 8 feet long...

And no brake lines are different lengths.


ok guy... What about thepickups that the passenger side line runs into the drivers side line in the drivers wheel well then runs over?

Wouldn't that be pretty unbalanced?
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Ok all you smarty pants. The length of the stupid line will not matter. Period. As long as it has fluid in the line it could be 5 miles long it will still move the same amount of fluid. Hydraulics 101 boys.

but like the last post said. Diameter is the one that has to be the same/
So you're telling me that in a system that is not 100% continuously pressurized with fluid, that the length of a brake line does not matter. I won't disagree on diameter at all, but length you are wrong.

What happens? For those that want to know. The shorter the distance from the master cylinder to the caliper, the sooner braking force will be applied on that caliper. What happens when one side of the car brakes before the other? It pulls. Is pulling a good thing? Apparently according to Jason.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:58 PM   #2
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But everything you said about me and this issue is wrong...

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thanks. I don't think this guy has been right about any post he has on the planet
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Really? You couldn't even answer my question.

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I'm dying to hear this because the brake lines just transmit pressure and if they are bled properly there will not be any difference in pressure for lines 1/16" difference in length.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:00 PM   #3
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I've had this type of discussion with guys that just got out of school before. Work in the real work for awhile and you will learn.

I understand what they are going to teach in school, but is not always real world applicable.
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It is always real world applicable to do things right......

I'm also not fresh out of school either, I've got a decade under my belt as a mechanic, and worked for 2 different dealerships and was co-owner of my own shop until January of this last year.

Safe to say I know a thing or two buddy.

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just be glad he didn't go to DeVry.....you'd really be hearing about expertise
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:05 PM   #4
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It is always real world applicable to do things right......

I'm also not fresh out of school either, I've got a decade under my belt as a mechanic, and worked for 2 different dealerships and was co-owner of my own shop until January of this last year.

Safe to say I know a thing or two buddy.



Right?
probably a reason you no longer own a shop. And it's not your expertise...
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Or because we both did it to stay employed and finish our certs while keeping experience on our resume so that we could both jump straight into Ford that Spring?


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So you're telling me that in a system that is not 100% continuously pressurized with fluid, that the length of a brake line does not matter. I won't disagree on diameter at all, but length you are wrong.

What happens? For those that want to know. The shorter the distance from the master cylinder to the caliper, the sooner braking force will be applied on that caliper. What happens when one side of the car brakes before the other? It pulls. Is pulling a good thing? Apparently according to Jason.
Is this true for a compressible fluid or an incomprehensible fluid?
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:01 PM   #9
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So you're telling me that in a system that is not 100% continuously pressurized with fluid, that the length of a brake line does not matter. I won't disagree on diameter at all, but length you are wrong.

What happens? For those that want to know. The shorter the distance from the master cylinder to the caliper, the sooner braking force will be applied on that caliper. What happens when one side of the car brakes before the other? It pulls. Is pulling a good thing? Apparently according to Jason.
Fluid doesn't compress. If there is no air in the system as soon as fluid moves anywhere it moves everywhere.

Restricted lines or hoses cause pulls.


Again, what about a pickup that the line comes from the master to the lf wheel well and the rf line tires into it there and runs all the way to the Rf wheel? Why doesn't the truck pull left?


You are wrong.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:03 PM   #10
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Fluid doesn't compress. If there is no air in the system as soon as fluid moves anywhere it moves everywhere.

Restricted lines or houses cause pulls.


Again, what about a pickup that the line comes from the master to the lf wheel well and the rf line tires into it there and runs all the way to the Rf wheel? Why doesn't the truck pull left?


You are wrong.
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If you're going to test me on my knowledge, take 5 seconds or 5 hours or however long it takes you to do so, and actually write me a descriptive, intelligible question so that I can answer it.

I am not wrong, braking in just about 90% of the light trucks and cars on the road today is not 100% pressurized and contained, and thus the length of the brake lines from master cylinder to caliper are incredibly important.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:07 PM   #11
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If you're going to test me on my knowledge, take 5 seconds or 5 hours or however long it takes you to do so, and actually write me a descriptive, intelligible question so that I can answer it.

I am not wrong, braking in just about 90% of the light trucks and cars on the road today is not 100% pressurized and contained, and thus the length of the brake lines from master cylinder to caliper are incredibly important.
I have you a hypothetical. I know you won't address it because two major manufacturers built their trucks in the 2000s that exact way. just do you know I'm not just working on "farm trucks"
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I have you a hypothetical. I know you won't address it because two major manufacturers built their trucks in the 2000s that exact way. just do you know I'm not just working on "farm trucks"
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You can't even spell properly, and yet you're trying to make a rebuttal.

Really?

Take 5 minutes to write your question in a descriptive manner, and I will answer it.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:13 PM   #13
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You can't even spell properly, and yet you're trying to make a rebuttal.

Really?

Take 5 minutes to write your question in a descriptive manner, and I will answer it.
lol now playing spell check to deflect huh?

Good move.
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Old 01-03-2013, 10:17 PM   #14
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I was just trying to lighten the mood. Jason knows a lot about cars, calling him a shade tree mechanic is ridiculous. You guys should agree to disagree.
He could just Agree that I'm right, because I am.

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Yes they are.

The lines tee, actually the sorter line is a straight dot from the steel to the hose and goesDIRECTLY to the lf wheel. The rf steel screws in at a ninety to the steel from the master and them Goss ALL THE WAY TO THE RF. Why doesn't it pull left? by your incorrect theory the fluid should get to the lf quite a bit earlier. But it doesn't.


Obviously you haven't worked on many vehicles out you would know exactly the vehicles in talking about
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Oh my god dude, seriously? 1. You aren't even defining the make and model of the vehicle you are arguing about, yes it matters. 2. You aren't telling me what braking system is on said vehicle, yes it matters. 3. I can barely understand your backwoods English, fix that.

Don't ****ing argue with me about something as basic as this, if you aren't going to tell me WHAT THE **** YOU ARE ARGUING ABOUT IN THE FIRST PLACE.


Simply put, in a braking system where there is not always 100% pressure, the length of the brake line indeed matters, because of how the braking system is designed to exert pressure into the system to apply braking pressure.

Herpty derp.

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lol now playing spell check to deflect huh?

Good move.
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