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Old 07-20-2012, 02:42 AM  
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The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread
For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:03 PM   #586
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People aren't able to pick apart great movies. It's one of the things that makes them great.
Such as? I have some free time and could use some suggestions.
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:09 PM   #587
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You want me to give you a list of great films? Such a thing, partially defined through critical consensus, is easily Googlable. You could start with Roger Ebert's list that is literally titled Great Movies. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...ovies_first100
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:09 PM   #588
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Old 07-30-2012, 02:22 PM   #589
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Oh well...you didn't say THAT. It's all falling into place now.
There will be a montage of him building it a la Days of Thunder in the director's cut, as well as a previously cut scene titled "Rising" in which Bruce trains for the climb out of the pit set to Push It to the Limit by Pete Bellotte. It's. ****ing. Awesome.
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There will be a montage of him building it a la Days of Thunder in the director's cut, as well as a previously cut scene titled "Rising" in which Bruce trains for the climb out of the pit set to Push It to the Limit by Pete Bellotte. It's. ****ing. Awesome.
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Actually, it took my 20th viewing to notice that loophole. When Batman is in the prison, his helper/warden is telling him how a child escaped, and how we assume that child is Bane. In the same scene, I believe, he mentions that Bane was beaten by the prisoners and how the mask "controls the pain". Well, if supposedly we are led to believe a child escaped, and the child is Bane... how the **** did the adult Bane get beaten by prisoners to the point of needing a pain-controlling mask?

As for Bane being dispatched quickly, I also felt that to be a bit cheap. He'd been built up all through the film as this combination of cerebral anarchy/socialism and physical power. And as soon as Talia reveals herself as the child, Catwoman blows Bane literally out of the film with the Batcycle's guns. Seems like a rude and unfitting end to a guy who was built up all film as "the baddie".
I picked that up immediately, but the action is pretty intense at that point.

It's not like it was hard to spot, but given all that was going on at the time, it was hard to process. I realized it and didn't think that Bane was the child that climbed from the pit, but everytime I started to try to think about who it could be or why the inconsistency, something else happened to distract me from it.

I honestly wonder if that wasn't by design. Unless you tune the movie out for 15 minutes and start pondering, there's just not a good moment to get much beyond the "wait...so Bane isn't the child" moment. And even that one is likely brushed off by most of the viewing audience as a product of their own misunderstanding.

For the record; loved the movie. I love 'beginning' type stories and I think that's why I like Begins and even this one better than TDK. TDK is just Batman whupin' ass and using gadgets the whole time. Both Begins and Rises have a 'rebuild' story to them and I love those.
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I picked that up immediately, but the action is pretty intense at that point.

It's not like it was hard to spot, but given all that was going on at the time, it was hard to process. I realized it and didn't think that Bane was the child that climbed from the pit, but everytime I started to try to think about who it could be or why the inconsistency, something else happened to distract me from it.

I honestly wonder if that wasn't by design. Unless you tune the movie out for 15 minutes and start pondering, there's just not a good moment to get much beyond the "wait...so Bane isn't the child" moment. And even that one is likely brushed off by most of the viewing audience as a product of their own misunderstanding.

For the record; loved the movie. I love 'beginning' type stories and I think that's why I like Begins and even this one better than TDK. TDK is just Batman whupin' ass and using gadgets the whole time. Both Begins and Rises have a 'rebuild' story to them and I love those.
They're all good movies but I love TDK the best just for Ledger's Joker. I think performances like that make a movie go from 'really really good' to 'great'. I think Begins and TDKR are both really really good but TDK is great and the most memorable because of the Joker. Plus...Two-Face is pretty much my favorite Batman villain.

Also, Begins and Rises both take a while for Batman to show up, and TDK, being the middle movie, pretty much starts off right away with Batman action. I could be wrong, but I think it had the most Batman action out of the trilogy. It's kinda why I liked Spider-Man 2 the best out of the Raimi trilogy. It starts off right away with Spider-Man.
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You want me to give you a list of great films? Such a thing, partially defined through critical consensus, is easily Googlable. You could start with Roger Ebert's list that is literally titled Great Movies. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/...ovies_first100
Wtf is google? Given you critiquing this movie I thought perhaps you had some off the top of your head that YOU thought were great and were maybe using as a comparison in your own mind.
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I picked that up immediately, but the action is pretty intense at that point.

It's not like it was hard to spot, but given all that was going on at the time, it was hard to process. I realized it and didn't think that Bane was the child that climbed from the pit, but everytime I started to try to think about who it could be or why the inconsistency, something else happened to distract me from it.

I honestly wonder if that wasn't by design. Unless you tune the movie out for 15 minutes and start pondering, there's just not a good moment to get much beyond the "wait...so Bane isn't the child" moment. And even that one is likely brushed off by most of the viewing audience as a product of their own misunderstanding.

For the record; loved the movie. I love 'beginning' type stories and I think that's why I like Begins and even this one better than TDK. TDK is just Batman whupin' ass and using gadgets the whole time. Both Begins and Rises have a 'rebuild' story to them and I love those.
I'm still wondering why the "is Bane the child?" subplot is important to the story.

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Sorry if this has been asked, I haven't seen it on here. But I saw this for the 3rd time last night & can't understand what Bane says right after "I'm Gotham's reckoning..." before he snaps that dude's neck in half. Only time that I couldn't understand him and it's bugging the crap out of me.... Help?
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Sorry if this has been asked, I haven't seen it on here. But I saw this for the 3rd time last night & can't understand what Bane says right after "I'm Gotham's reckoning..." before he snaps that dude's neck in half. Only time that I couldn't understand him and it's bugging the crap out of me.... Help?
Was that when he said something like, "because you give me money, you own me?"
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Basically he bought and/or sold contracts on the futures market. And then they went the other way, meaning his position lost money. He had to lose everything to make the margin call.

Think of it as you buying a contract of corn (5,000 bu) at $6. Then the price goes down to $5.00. You now owe $1,000 to the brokerage. That's what Bane did.
The Stock exchange is immediately shut down remotely in case of terriost attack on the exchange. All traffic is stopped.
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2. Didn't like the way Bane was taken out. Would have much rather had Batman rip his entire mask off and then go to town on him. Instead Catwoman blew him away with the Batbike.
like the other comments, I felt catwomen blowing Bane away was cheap. Batman running into the middle of a huge melee against a guy who beat him the last time would not be the smart way Bruce wayne would have handled the 2nd confrontation.

And dont even get me started on an exposed spinal cord just being snapped into place and all feeling is restored.
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The Stock exchange is immediately shut down remotely in case of terriost attack on the exchange. All traffic is stopped.
Are you talking about the one in New York or the one in Gotham?
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