The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread

[mdchiefsfan]

For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

Ok, that's how I remember it. It's never said that the child is Bane, but it's never said that it isn't. Just that the prison is his. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the story of Bane protecting the child doesn't come up until the end of the move with Talia....is that right?

It's mentioned in that whole scene at the end of my post which I summed up as "story of the warlord's daughter" (although I obviously mistyped and meant to say "story of the warlord's g/f"). Batman's warden talks about how the warlord was supposed to go in the hole, his pregnant g/f went in instead, the child was raised in the hole, one day the doctor forgot to lock the gate, the prisoners came for the woman, the child tries to attack them, the child's protector grabs the child, they show the protector crouching down behind a wall with the child and we assume the mother is raped/killed, and through all of that we are working on the erroneous assumption that the child is Bane and the protector is unknown, when in reality the child is Tania and the protector is Bane. Point being, if we're supposed to be working under the assumption, as Bruce Wayne is, that the child is Bane, then the fact that Bane is attacked by the inmates and thus needs the mask makes no sense at all. (In fact, in this whole scene, they show the child climbing to freedom while the protector is pulled down by the prisoners, so if we'd simply stopped and thought about it...)

[ThaVirus]

Bruce Wayne is a ****ing genius. He should have done something clever instead of RARGH IT'S BAT POWER TIME. It cheapens the character.

Something clever like what?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Something clever like what?

Beats me. I'm not a genius gazillionaire, or a highly-acclaimed director writing one.

[Hammock Parties]

Here's a real easy solution:

Bruce figures out Talia was the kid Bane got ****ed up protecting.

Bruce attacks her/captures her instead of attacking Bane, in order to get him at a disadvantage/take advantage of his emotional attachment.

That is pretty shallow and still would have been a lot better than RARGH BATMAN PUNCH HARD.

[Hammock Parties]

Also, Catwoman saving Batman's ass at the last second was really stupid.

We didn't even hear the batpod making noise busting in? Come on.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Here's a real easy solution:

Bruce figures out Talia was the kid Bane got ****ed up protecting.

Bruce attacks her/captures her instead of attacking Bane, in order to get him at a disadvantage/take advantage of his emotional attachment.

That is pretty shallow and still would have been a lot better than RARGH BATMAN PUNCH HARD.

That sounds even less characteristic of Batman than a straight up brawl.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Also, Catwoman saving Batman's ass at the last second was really stupid.

We didn't even hear the batpod making noise busting in? Come on.

Aren't you a fan of the Lord of the Rings?

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by JD10367

It's mentioned in that whole scene at the end of my post which I summed up as "story of the warlord's daughter" (although I obviously mistyped and meant to say "story of the warlord's g/f"). Batman's warden talks about how the warlord was supposed to go in the hole, his pregnant g/f went in instead, the child was raised in the hole, one day the doctor forgot to lock the gate, the prisoners came for the woman, the child tries to attack them, the child's protector grabs the child, they show the protector crouching down behind a wall with the child and we assume the mother is raped/killed, and through all of that we are working on the erroneous assumption that the child is Bane and the protector is unknown, when in reality the child is Tania and the protector is Bane. Point being, if we're supposed to be working under the assumption, as Bruce Wayne is, that the child is Bane, then the fact that Bane is attacked by the inmates and thus needs the mask makes no sense at all. (In fact, in this whole scene, they show the child climbing to freedom while the protector is pulled down by the prisoners, so if we'd simply stopped and thought about it...)

you're right....I knew you'd know with your access to the movie. I just couldn't remember the whole scene.

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Also, Catwoman saving Batman's ass at the last second was really stupid.

We didn't even hear the batpod making noise busting in? Come on.

Batman had kicked Bane through the door. It wasn't there.

[Jerm]

The greatest cinematic experience I've had since..........The Dark Knight. It was even better for me than watching The Avengers in the theater, and I loved The Avengers.

An absolute epic masterpiece, just not enough words and superlatives for me to rave about...love it, seeing it again ASAP.

Nolan's vision of Batman, the characters, and his world are paralleled by NO OTHER incarnation of Batman...he is the ruler. The way he was able to make three distinct films that were all incredible while tying in ALL of them into one tight story was just remarkable IMO.

LOTR is my favorite movie trilogy but Nolan's Batman is like 1/4 of a step behind it.

MIND...BLOWN...

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That sounds even less characteristic of Batman than a straight up brawl.

Bruce Wayne is a cunning genius. He'd think up something even more ingenious to defeat Bane if it came down to it.

To reduce him to Rocky in black kevlar is cheap, shitty writing.

How do you think he got out of this?

[luv]

Is GoChiefs going against the norm again? How unusual.

[Hammock Parties]

*shrug*

It's a pretty valid complaint.

I liked the movie, but that scene felt off.

Batman wouldn't just go charging in against a guy who swatted him like a fly the first time.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Batman wouldn't just go charging in against a guy who swatted him like a fly the first time.

No, see, he would charge Bane because he became scared to die!

Err, um, wut.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Here's a real easy solution:

Bruce figures out Talia was the kid Bane got ****ed up protecting.

Bruce attacks her/captures her instead of attacking Bane, in order to get him at a disadvantage/take advantage of his emotional attachment.

That is pretty shallow and still would have been a lot better than RARGH BATMAN PUNCH HARD.

I disagree. That's not a better ending. IMO.

Originally Posted by Reaper16

No, see, he would charge Bane because he became scared to die!

Err, um, wut.

He was merely trying to save Gotham. He sacrificed himself in the end anyway. Plus he needed the trigger, which everybody believed Bane had. How was he going to get it?