Is there anything stronger than Roundup?

[MTG#10]

Every year I spray the weeds/grass in my flower bed in front of my house with this shit at least 6-8 times. Ive tried doubling the strength of the mix but the grass/weeds still comes back a month or so later. I tried the stupid vinegar/epson salt/dish soap shit (all lies, doesnt work at all) and everything else I can think of.

Is there anything out there that will kill weeds/grass better than Roundup besides diesel fuel/gasoline? Something that you dont need a special permit to buy preferable.

[Reerun_KC]

I use Dithiopyr 40WSB and Amine 24D in early spring

MSMA -6plus and Amine 24D in Mid June, then 10 days later hit it again with MSMA...

Mid fall Ill hit it one final time with just Amine 24D to clean it up for the winter...

[kccrow]

Ammonia. No more grass.

EDIT: Oh, forgot to mention... when the Nitrogen levels fall to acceptable you'll grow grass like a mofo.

[2112]

Esplanade herbicide. Very expensive but it has a 6 month residual.

https://www.backedbybayer.com/vegeta...planade-200-sc


It's a post and pre-emergent. I tried it this year with real good success. Spray everything and then cover with mulch.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

http://www.preen.com/products

Lol n00b

[2112]

http://www.syngenta-us.com/labels/gramoxone-sl

Back in the 90's I used gramaxone lol this shit was the most powerful stuff. It had stench in it and had skull and crossbones on the label. Not very safe to use, but on a hot day the weeds would literally shrivel up in like 5 minutes.

[Mike in SW-MO]

Just looked up our go-to herbicide for Canadian thistle back in the 80's. Undiluted paraquat in a spray jug.

Funny literature nowadays. Fatal. Only licensed applicators. Cannot be used in residential areas.

Here I was using it first summer after high school wearing a tank top, sitting on the tailgate of the old farm truck while the farm supe drove. Good times. Hardly twitch at all anymore.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by D2112

Esplanade herbicide. Very expensive but it has a 6 month residual.

https://www.backedbybayer.com/vegeta...planade-200-sc


It's a post and pre-emergent. I tried it this year with real good success. Spray everything and then cover with mulch.

Yeah, that's some mean shit.

Originally Posted by D2112

http://www.syngenta-us.com/labels/gramoxone-sl

Back in the 90's I used gramaxone lol this shit was the most powerful stuff. It had stench in it and had skull and crossbones on the label. Not very safe to use, but on a hot day the weeds would literally shrivel up in like 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO

Just looked up our go-to herbicide for Canadian thistle back in the 80's. Undiluted paraquat in a spray jug.

Funny literature nowadays. Fatal. Only licensed applicators. Cannot be used in residential areas.

Here I was using it first summer after high school wearing a tank top, sitting on the tailgate of the old farm truck while the farm supe drove. Good times. Hardly twitch at all anymore.

Paraquat is nasty shit. I've sprayed 1000's of gallons of it and hated every minute of it. The skull and crossbones is no funny shit. It kills both weeds and you by oxidizing cells. The stuff you get from syngenta or wherever has a lot of safeners in it, but even then you have to wear full on rubber gloves, long sleeves, eye protection and a respirator. The pure shit that is in powder form that they refine up is really nasty shit. They had a problem with people getting ahold of it and swallowing some to commit suicide because it is fool proof.

Nasty nasty shit. But holy hell does it electrify kochia.

Don't use it for residental use. It's essentially like mowing. Unless weeds are in the reproductive stage, they'll just grow back.

[BWillie]

all I know is I dont want to do any outdoor landscaping or lawn maintenance, ever again. I have a few diff properties and if anyone knows a good landscaper or lawn guy that will do it ALL for one monthly fee let me know. in jo co. I want them to mow, trim shrubs, weed eat, kill weeds, put preemergent, ariate, put seed down on bare spots. I dont want to ****ing do anything, ever. I dont want to tell them when to do it. I just want them to ****ing do it. just want to pay some swinging dick to do it

plaze halp

[Nickhead]

now, i am not joking when i say this, but hot tap water is all you need. you could boil some water depending on your application.

we have four cats, so i have converted a bath tub into a rinse-able litter box because cat litter is too expensive. (patent pending ). anyways. when we added the shower and toilet downstairs, our dumbass tradie tapped the hot water line to add a spout on the deck. well, on our deck we have many plant and herb boxes. i told the boys they could use the hot water when it is cold, to rinse the cat gravel, but not to leave water in the hose. relieve the pressure. well they were putting the hot water in our rosemary herb box, and it slowly died down. once we realized it was the hot water killing the plant it came back to good.

google it, it works.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah, that's some mean shit.





Paraquat is nasty shit. I've sprayed 1000's of gallons of it and hated every minute of it. The skull and crossbones is no funny shit. It kills both weeds and you by oxidizing cells. The stuff you get from syngenta or wherever has a lot of safeners in it, but even then you have to wear full on rubber gloves, long sleeves, eye protection and a respirator. The pure shit that is in powder form that they refine up is really nasty shit. They had a problem with people getting ahold of it and swallowing some to commit suicide because it is fool proof.

Nasty nasty shit. But holy hell does it electrify kochia.

Don't use it for residental use. It's essentially like mowing. Unless weeds are in the reproductive stage, they'll just grow back.

I took a bath with that shit in 1991 when the spray handle came off the end of the hose under pressure on a 4 gallon tank �� it was 98 degrees out and my douche boss was like "you'll be ok, just wash your shirt with water" that douche got a lil drop of sevin down the crack in his ass and was crying he had to go home later that week.

Stopped using that in the late 90's. Round up quick pro (the granular) is what I use now

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by D2112

Esplanade herbicide. Very expensive but it has a 6 month residual.

https://www.backedbybayer.com/vegeta...planade-200-sc


It's a post and pre-emergent. I tried it this year with real good success. Spray everything and then cover with mulch.

I put the Merit down this morning. We are supposed to get a lot of rain the next two days. Saw signs of skunks digging for grubs while mowing last night.


Also, per the thread question, I recently purchased and used a product called Brushtox http://raganandmassey.com/brand/brushtox/ to clean up those vines with thorns like rose bushes growing in the last nasty area of our property.

This was cattle territory 70 years ago and I heard they planted that crap as cheap fencing.

[notorious]

All of this chemical talk reminds me how many farmers and applicators die from exposure around 55-65 years of age.

My dad was insane about not letting me mix batches when spraying fields. He would always do it to cut down on my exposure.


Be careful with it guys. That stuff will rape you.

[HonestChieffan]

Preen. Safe. Easy. Will stop grasses germinating. Sprsy roundup on the emerged stuff then Preen the beds. If you have a good garden center look for Snapshot. It will give control of grasses and broadleaves

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by notorious

All of this chemical talk reminds me how many farmers and applicators die from exposure around 55-65 years of age.

My dad was insane about not letting me mix batches when spraying fields. He would always do it to cut down on my exposure.


Be careful with it guys. That stuff will rape you.

I just bought a closed flow tender system for that very reason.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Pablo

Just show the weeds a couple of your threads. They'll lose the will to live pretty quickly.