The Complete List of Guitar Players Better Than Alex Lifeson - Page 5

Braincase · 12-01-2006, 02:23 PM

I'll start with ...

Joe Satriani

Braincase · 12-02-2006, 12:30 PM

I think I'll add John 5 to the list.

Braincase · 12-02-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

the guy is very average-if he didnt wear that ridicules KFC bucket on his head-nobody would even now him.

Y'know, I started this thread to yank your chain. I am now convinced you have a tin ear and a complete inability to recognized guitar virtuosity. You can't possibly be a player, or a musician of any modicum of ability to say such an inane statement.

Lifeson is good. Better than average, but you really don't have a freakin' clue what your talking about except when the subject is Rush, and then you go straight to unqualified exaggeration.

Oz_Chief · 12-02-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer

lol, are you joking? Kurt Cobain? wow, what an average, at best, guitar player - don't get me wrong, i love nirvana as the next grunge junkie but i'd say Daniel Johns is the best in that genre.

I agree. I'm actually listening to "Diorama" right now and Daniel can put down some pretty good stuff. I am not a huge Silverchair fan but I like the Van Dyke Parks touch on "Diorama".

**QuikSsurfer** · 12-02-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oz_Chief

I agree. I'm actually listening to "Diorama" right now and Daniel can put down some pretty good stuff. I am not a huge Silverchair fan but I like the Van Dyke Parks touch on "Diorama".

Diorama is an AMAZING album.. from start to finish
love "too much of not enough"
looking forward to their new release in 07

ChiefFripp · 12-02-2006, 01:28 PM

The whole Kurt cobain thing was a joke. I thought adding the Young brothers and Iggy Pop would clue everyone in to my sarcasm. Anyways, I really do like Nirvana and Cobain, it's just that if you ever want to piss off a fan of a guitar virtuoso, just tell them you think Cobain is better.

**Easy 6** · 12-02-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Kurt Cobain- his idea of a solo is detuning the E string and getting feedback from the amp. Probably the most overrated average songwriters ever.

Dude, jump back...Kurt is recognized by musicians of all stripes as one of the BEST ever.

His music was based on converting raw emotion into sound. More often than not, emotion is not a clean & neat thing...it can be ugly, it howls, it screams and wails.

No offense to Rush, i appreciate that they are incredibly skilled guys, and i do like a few of their cuts......BUT, its the overly complex arrangements that, to me atleast, steal the emotion from their songs.

I prefer guys who can wring more feeling out of 3 notes to guys who always feel like they need some sweeping, intricate run.

Music is emotion, and nobody wrote grittier, emotion filled songs better.

Its all a matter of taste, but KURT RULEZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!

Ebolapox · 12-02-2006, 01:47 PM

eh, I'm too young to know who half of those guys are-- but I'll throw in tom morello of rage against the machine (he's dead to me due to the audioslave stuff)--one of the best 'next generation' guys

**Easy 6** · 12-02-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Braincase

OK... gotta say "Nyet" to Ace Frehley. Most of his solos can be played by others at 4x speed.

Frehley rocked, dont confuse notes per second with great licks. Nobody had a better vibrato than Ace. Thats what kills me with rating guitarists...complexity does NOT equal greatness IMHO.

thedude · 12-02-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Frehley rocked, dont confuse notes per second with great licks. Nobody had a better vibrato than Ace. Thats what kills me with rating guitarists...complexity does NOT equal greatness IMHO.

yeah, you gotta be smoking rocks not to think Ace isn't one of the best guitarists of the last 30 years. His style is probably one of the most emulated as well. Countless players will list him as one of their main influences. Mike McCready has basically admitted that the solo to Alive was copied from an old Frehley riff.

It gets at me too, because people tend to think that technical skill and speed and "shredding" (which is such bullshit anyways) and not the passion and the emotion of the solo in the context of the song.

ZepSinger · 12-02-2006, 03:09 PM

Hey, I like both Rush and Kiss as much as anyone. But on the 10 scale (1=nonplayer, 10=best to ever pick up a guitar), I'd have to give Frehley a 4 and Lifeson a 6.

Not sure if anyone can achieve a 10 in both feel and technique, so I'll break my favs up this way:

Hendrix- 10 (innovation and style)
Michael Schenker- 9 (sound and technique)
Yngwie- 10 (technique)
Buckethead- 10 (virtuosity and technique)
Ian Bairnson (Alan Parsons Project)- 9 (feel and sound)
SRV- 10 (style and sound)
Satriani- 8 (technique)

BTW, I humbly place myself at a 5- in between Frehley and Lifeson.

Z

**Easy 6** · 12-02-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thedude

yeah, you gotta be smoking rocks not to think Ace isn't one of the best guitarists of the last 30 years. His style is probably one of the most emulated as well. Countless players will list him as one of their main influences. Mike McCready has basically admitted that the solo to Alive was copied from an old Frehley riff.

It gets at me too, because people tend to think that technical skill and speed and "shredding" (which is such bullshit anyways) and not the passion and the emotion of the solo in the context of the song.

BAM

!!!

Braincase · 12-02-2006, 03:13 PM

I've had a guitar teacher better than Alex Lifeson... granted, the guy had a monthly column on jazz improvisation in Guitar Player magazine for half of the 70's...

Braincase · 12-02-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thedude

yeah, you gotta be smoking rocks not to think Ace isn't one of the best guitarists of the last 30 years. His style is probably one of the most emulated as well. Countless players will list him as one of their main influences...

I didn't say Ace wasn't influential, and I do respect scott free's opinion about technique.

This whole thread is 100% subjective. There are any number of guitar players that are above average at best from a technique perspective, but have become some of the most influential players out there. Angus Young is very influential, but I would say Gary Moore is more technically astute. If I were putting together a progrock group, I would admit that Lifeson would be on my top-10, and others on that list would include Steve Howe, John Petrucci, Robert Fripp, Charlie Hunter, Buckethead, and some others. If I were putting together a blues rock band, it's be Gary Moore, Jeff Beck, Chris Duarte, Henry Garza, Joe Bonamossa, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Clapton and others.

Brock · 12-02-2006, 03:27 PM

Alex Lifeson was good before he morphed into Andy Summers.

siberian khatru · 12-02-2006, 03:50 PM

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Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: como Casino cash: $2109903	eh, I'm too young to know who half of those guys are-- but I'll throw in tom morello of rage against the machine (he's dead to me due to the audioslave stuff)--one of the best 'next generation' guys
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ZepSinger Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $10004900	Hey, I like both Rush and Kiss as much as anyone. But on the 10 scale (1=nonplayer, 10=best to ever pick up a guitar), I'd have to give Frehley a 4 and Lifeson a 6. Not sure if anyone can achieve a 10 in both feel and technique, so I'll break my favs up this way: Hendrix- 10 (innovation and style) Michael Schenker- 9 (sound and technique) Yngwie- 10 (technique) Buckethead- 10 (virtuosity and technique) Ian Bairnson (Alan Parsons Project)- 9 (feel and sound) SRV- 10 (style and sound) Satriani- 8 (technique) BTW, I humbly place myself at a 5- in between Frehley and Lifeson. Z __________________ test
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