****Official Let's Break Down Sutton's Defense Thread****

[Sorter]

Welp, I figure we should go ahead and start this project early.

Here are a few helpful hints!

1. Sutton has served primarily as a DC/LB for 8 years including this one.
2. He also had a stint as an OC, as well as WR/QB coach in the early 80's and a RB coach for 8 years (Hence his desire to stop the run)
3. He also served as the Ravens DC along with Rex from 06-08

What I believe from this and other data easily obtained, we're going to see an altered version of the 2-gap that we came to know and love under Romeo. Now, there are some slight variatons (such as DEs playing the 4-tech instead of the 5, the use of zone/man blitz philosophies out of base fronts, and the use of fire zones in base fronts).

Here's a wonderful link I'll provide until a certain league decides to take it down.

[chiefzilla1501]

I think people freak out when they hear the word 2-gap. I didn't like the negativity when DeVito was signed.

The difference is that Romeo like to run a pure 2-gap. 2-gap all day long. Sutton's defense is going to mirror Rex Ryan's, in that the 3-4 will be 2-gap, but he's also going to throw a ton of 4-3 looks. So his 5-techniques have to be able to also play a conventional 4-3 tackle.

I like Rex Ryan's defense. I think the defense fell short the past few years because of talent.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think people freak out when they hear the word 2-gap. I didn't like the negativity when DeVito was signed.

The difference is that Romeo like to run a pure 2-gap. 2-gap all day long. Sutton's defense is going to mirror Rex Ryan's, in that the 3-4 will be 2-gap, but he's also going to throw a ton of 4-3 looks. So his 5-techniques have to be able to also play a conventional 4-3 tackle.

I like Rex Ryan's defense. I think the defense fell short the past few years because of talent.

One primary difference is that in various alignments (over-ed, over, under) Sutton/Rex utilizes one DE playing 2-gap responsibilities, whilst the other does not. Similar in structure to Kiffin's under principles but different as well.

One thing that does concern me (and I don't know how much of this is Rex or Sutton) is the propensity to utilize 3 safety packages. They work fine if you have a fantastic front 4 and great corner play. I don't know if we're going to see Berry as the Ted as we did in Romeo's 2-3-6 but I wouldn't discount it just yet.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

One primary difference is that in various alignments (over-ed, over, under) Sutton/Rex utilizes one DE playing 2-gap responsibilities, whilst the other does not. Similar in structure to Kiffin's under principles but different as well.

One thing that does concern me (and I don't know how much of this is Rex or Sutton) is the propensity to utilize 3 safety packages. They work fine if you have a fantastic front 4 and great corner play. I don't know if we're going to see Berry as the Ted as we did in Romeo's 2-3-6 but I wouldn't discount it just yet.

I think the huge difference is that the Ryan difference is going to bring a ton of blitz pressure.

The other huge difference is that the 3-4 defense was purely a 3-man front. The Ryan defense is going to mix things up a bunch at the line and run a bunch of traditional 4-3 sets. It's going to be a 3-4/4-3 hybrid. That's why the DeVito pickup is a good one.

Again, we'll see how it goes. I think our D-line is going to bring a hell of a lot more pressure than the Jets could.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I think people freak out when they hear the word 2-gap. I didn't like the negativity when DeVito was signed.

The difference is that Romeo like to run a pure 2-gap. 2-gap all day long. Sutton's defense is going to mirror Rex Ryan's, in that the 3-4 will be 2-gap, but he's also going to throw a ton of 4-3 looks. So his 5-techniques have to be able to also play a conventional 4-3 tackle.

I like Rex Ryan's defense. I think the defense fell short the past few years because of talent.

My friend is a beat writer for the Jets and he insisted from the people he's talked to connected to Sutton that Sutton is running a 1-gap defense in KC.

He will mix it up with various other fronts, but the primary defense is going to be a 3-4 attacking 1 gap defense.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

My friend is a beat writer for the Jets and he insisted from the people he's talked to connected to Sutton that Sutton is running a 1-gap defense in KC.

He will mix it up with various other fronts, but the primary defense is going to be a 3-4 attacking 1 gap defense.

Nom nom nom.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

My friend is a beat writer for the Jets and he insisted from the people he's talked to connected to Sutton that Sutton is running a 1-gap defense in KC.

He will mix it up with various other fronts, but the primary defense is going to be a 3-4 attacking 1 gap defense.

That's interesting. I could see that, though the DeVito signing makes me think they will run Ryan's defense. Which is attacking and it's not pure 2-gap (as they'd only have one guy running 2-gap). What I feel very, very confident about is it will be NOTHING like what he ran from 2006-2008.

[O.city]

You know who's defense I like? Ray Horton's.


****. Damn Cardinals.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by O.city

You know who's defense I like? Ray Horton's.


****. Damn Cardinals.

I'm probably going to be bitter about that shit for a long time.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

I'm probably going to be bitter about that shit for a long time.

It would have made for a killer coaching staff.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by O.city

It would have made for a killer coaching staff.

Cockblocking sons of bitches.

[Cephalic Trauma]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

Cockblocking sons of bitches.

What were you planning on doing with him?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

I'm probably going to be bitter about that shit for a long time.

Ray Horton was one of my top guys, even for head coach.

But I'd like to see where this defense goes. It's a progressive defense. I think people on this board are too stuck on the word 2-gap. It's not the same thing here. This defense is going to bring a lot of pressure and a lot of the Jets' problems can easily be blamed on horrendous pass rushers, a problem the Chiefs don't have.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Ponderception

I'm probably going to be bitter about that shit for a long time.

I know coordinators don't make a team (at least they shouldn't) but it's total bullshit. I'm not going to be surprised one bit if Cleveland's defense takes a huge step this year, even over ours in spite of our superior talent.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by SNR

I know coordinators don't make a team (at least they shouldn't) but it's total bullshit. I'm not going to be surprised one bit if Cleveland's defense takes a huge step this year, even over ours in spite of our superior talent.

If their offense can stay on the field and not turn into KC the past 2 years, that roster + Horton is going to be a nasty defense. They've got some fun tools.