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Old 11-03-2016, 09:11 PM  
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*** Official 2017 Royals Offseason Repository ***

The reign is over. Time to begin the quest for the next one.

Interesting offseason opens for the Royals. Will they go all in for one last shot with this crew? Will they re-tool for 2018 and beyond? Will Dayton Moore actually decrease payroll this time?

Trades, free agent signings, rumors, plans, proposals... dump 'em all here, for this is... the offseason repository!

Royals Top Prospects, 2017

This is a list that’s going to seem a little bleak initially, as Raul Mondesi got enough ABs to age out of the prospect rankings (just barely – at 135 ABs, he is not rookie eligible). But that said, I like the talent and feel like this is a system that will actually be underrated by the prospect services.

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Old 02-01-2017, 09:46 PM   #1666
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On a gut level, losing Dyson hurts worse than anyone since Beltran.
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Old 02-01-2017, 09:47 PM   #1667
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On a gut level, losing Dyson hurts worse than anyone since Beltran.
Oh man, I was pretty freaking devastated about Wil Myers. I had to pretty much be talked from the ledge after that one.
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Old 02-01-2017, 09:48 PM   #1668
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:14 PM   #1669
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Myers had his fair share of flaws that were apparent enough for me to not get worked up over trading him. Though, at that point in time I wanted the Royals to fire Dayton Moore so I viewed it as a win-win. If the trade worked out, then great, if it didn't then GMDM would've been fired. I, and many others, had the sense that DM was skipping ahead in "the process" just to get the Royals to relevance and save his job.

Fast forward to now and I'll defend Dayton to my grave dammit.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:16 PM   #1670
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Myers had his fair share of flaws that were apparent enough for me to not get worked up over trading him. Though, at that point in time I wanted the Royals to fire Dayton Moore so I viewed it as a win-win. If the trade worked out, then great, if it didn't then GMDM would've been fired.

Fast forward to now and I'll defend Dayton to my grave dammit.
It was especially hard for me because I watched him, Hos and Moose transition from boys 2 men on 124p video at minor league games.

I was okay with trading Wil, but not for two years of a pitcher who had the mileage that James Shields did.

Luckily, I am a dumbass, and GMDM is not.

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Old 02-02-2017, 08:20 AM   #1671
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I thought the trade was fine in terms of fair value. I didn't want us doing it tho because we won 72 games and weren't a contender. Apparently DM felt we were and the rest is history
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Old 02-02-2017, 09:57 AM   #1672
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I thought the trade was fine in terms of fair value. I didn't want us doing it tho because we won 72 games and weren't a contender. Apparently DM felt we were and the rest is history
This.

The other piece was that we had such a gaping hole in RF... and GMDM was trading away our future RF of the millennium (in our minds).
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Old 02-02-2017, 03:02 PM   #1673
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Somewhere deep down inside me, I've never cared for Dyson much. Even though he's valuable to the Royals more than other teams, he's still just a 4th OF at best. I'm definitely not upset about losing him like some are here. It kinds blows my mind some are that torn up about it.
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Old 02-02-2017, 03:06 PM   #1674
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Somewhere deep down inside me, I've never cared for Dyson much. Even though he's valuable to the Royals more than other teams, he's still just a 4th OF at best. I'm definitely not upset about losing him like some are here. It kinds blows my mind some are that torn up about it.
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Old 02-02-2017, 03:16 PM   #1675
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Somewhere deep down inside me, I've never cared for Dyson much. Even though he's valuable to the Royals more than other teams, he's still just a 4th OF at best. I'm definitely not upset about losing him like some are here. It kinds blows my mind some are that torn up about it.
Man, I think every pt you made is false
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Old 02-02-2017, 03:18 PM   #1676
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Tell me why he wasn't a starting OF everyday then please.

Yes, I realize his WAR was good but why didn't he start then with the shit we've played in RF over the years?
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Somewhere deep down inside me, I've never cared for Dyson much. Even though he's valuable to the Royals more than other teams, he's still just a 4th OF at best. I'm definitely not upset about losing him like some are here. It kinds blows my mind some are that torn up about it.
Dyson swiped some critical bags. He was a part of the high pressure we put on teams late game. He also had some epic quotes. I named my dog after him and got my wife his custom jersey. He epitomizes the Royals, imo. Unconventional, fun to watch, and creates pressure.
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Tell me why he wasn't a starting OF everyday then please.

Yes, I realize his WAR was good but why didn't he start then with the shit we've played in RF over the years?
I don't know why you said "shit". Gordon and Cain made AS games, Cain playing *some* RF when Dyson came in. When they were hurt he did play, even in LF for Alex at times.

Point: if we didn't have both of them, he would've started regardless who was RF

I don't know why he didn't play over Alex Rios in 2015. I'm guessing the 10M paycheck forced that.

Dyson could've played CF every year for us the past 3-4 seasons, and we'd not have missed a beat. He could play CF for just about any team, bat 9, make no $, and be valuable.
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Old 02-03-2017, 11:18 AM   #1679
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Tell me why he wasn't a starting OF everyday then please.

Yes, I realize his WAR was good but why didn't he start then with the shit we've played in RF over the years?
Dyson is example where the eye test and WAR numbers don't add up.
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