Football Did the Patriots "cheat" yesterday to win? - Page 7

**Renegade** · 01-11-2015, 10:31 AM

It appears as if Harbaugh feels the Touchdown pass Edelman was illegal and is saying the Patriots cheated. I don't see anything wrong with this. How does CP feel about?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...ons/ar-AA81s9H

Rams Fan · 01-11-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Who said anything about Kraft besides you?

No one. And it's on me. Every time JPB posts anything about the Patriots I feel like Belichick's, Kraft's, and Brady's dicks are being shoved down my throat.

**SAUTO** · 01-11-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

No one. And it's on me. Every time JPB posts anything about the Patriots I feel like Belichick's, Kraft's, and Brady's dicks are being shoved down my throat.

Seems like a personal issue.

You might want to get that checked out.

Rams Fan · 01-11-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Seems like a personal issue.

You might want to get that checked out.

Or it might be due to St. Louis sports teams being Boston sports teams' bitches the past 14 years or so and me being butthurt about it.

thabear04 · 01-11-2015, 01:20 PM

Harbaugh just cry every time he lose important game.

GoChargers · 01-11-2015, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Brady needs another Super Bowl, desperately. Otherwise he'll retire with three asterisks.

And Fivehead will retire with two.

*Bailed out by his defense
*Shittiest Super Bowl opponent ever

**SAUTO** · 01-11-2015, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan

Or it might be due to St. Louis sports teams being Boston sports teams' bitches the past 14 years or so and me being butthurt about it.

At least you are honest

JD10367 · 01-11-2015, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

It wasn't cheating, but it's pretty funny that Belicheat had to pull out all sorts of desperate trickeration to barely squeak past one of the worst secondaries in football at home. If it was any other team, the media would be writing them off, but since it's the Pats, they've been practically handed the Lombardi already by the media.

Hey, how are those Chargers doing in the playoffs?

Mother****erJones · 01-11-2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I give Flacco nothing but credit this time around. I still think he's awful but he certainly looked like a franchise QB in this postseason. 3 ounces of crow, I order.

He is just a better postseason QB than regular season. I'd take that all day. He was really good yesterday.

Chiefnj2 · 01-11-2015, 02:26 PM

Ngata should have slammed Brady neck first into the turf and said " sorry, I thought he was an in eligible tight end."

**BossChief** · 01-11-2015, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The ref announced the player. The league will look into whether it should have been done better. But, regardless, the issue here isn't the Patriots "cheating", because they didn't. The Patriots did nothing wrong. That probably won't matter, because nothing's going to change the outcome of the game. New England won fairly and the Ravens cried "Deception!".

Now, the same idiots who still claim that the Patriots were found guilty of taping walk throughs will add this to their arsenal of incorrect cheating "facts".

They had draft picks taken away and had a massive fine because they cheated.

They didn't cheat yesterday though...they just exploited a hole in the rules.

It was cool to watch

Amnorix · 01-11-2015, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Brady needs another Super Bowl, desperately. Otherwise he'll retire with three ~~asterisks~~ rings, two MVPs, the most wins in NFL playoff history, the most completions in NFL playoff history, the most yards in NFL playoff history, the highest winning percentage in NFL playoff history, the most division championships in NFL history, the highest winning percentage in NFL history, tied for the most conference championship wins in NFL History (assuming he doesn't win next week, since if he does he will then take sole possession of that record), two Super Bowl MVPs, ten Pro Bowls, and the STARTING quarterback (over Manning) on the 2000 NFL all-decade team.

FYP. All of this, of course, assumes not adding to the resume this year or in any future years. Can't imagine how he survives in his mansion with his rich, hot model wife and kids with only this to look back on. Gonna be tough!

Hootie · 01-11-2015, 10:23 PM

That all looks good but I will not accept the striking of the word 'asterisks' since, as of today, Tom Brady has never won a Super Bowl where his team didn't cheat to gain an unfair competitive advantage.

Other than that, great!

Just Passin' By · 01-11-2015, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

They had draft picks taken away and had a massive fine because they cheated.

They didn't cheat yesterday though...they just exploited a hole in the rules.

It was cool to watch

Why do so many people just not bother to read?

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Now, the same idiots who still claim that the Patriots were found guilty of taping walk throughs will add this to their arsenal of incorrect cheating "facts".

The bolded, which is what I wrote, never happened.

Hootie · 01-11-2015, 10:25 PM

Tom Brady does, IMO, deserve a Super Bowl without an asterisk. He's a good guy. I hope he gets one next year. He shouldn't have to retire without a real Super Bowl ring.

Amnorix · 01-11-2015, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

so it sounds like Belichick won by manipulating the rules about uniform numbers? if I am reading this right, he used uniform numbers and late check-ins to make the defenders misunderstood who the eligible receivers were.

Errr...no. Vereen reported ineligible one play. Another play it was another guy. Each time the refs announce who was ineligible, and specifically said not to cover that guy.

Then the refs gave Baltimore about ten seconds to do whatever they wanted. Sub or whatever. Harbaugh flips out, and instead of calling time out to adjust, gets himself a 15 yard penalty for some reason.

The "deception" part was that Vereen, when he was ineligible, ACTED like an eligible receiver. He lined up split out, and ran backwards at the snap and acted like he might be getting a screen pass. But, of course, that is entirely legal. So long as he's not an illegal man DOWNfield, it's fine.

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Vereen runs backwards, because as a declared ineligible receiver, he cannot catch the ball unless it's a backward pass. The Ravens knew this before the play, but were so conditioned to seeing Vereen on screens or passes in the flat. (Vereen also keeps his hands up to sell it.) That's why linebacker C.J. Mosley gives him distance but still plays over him in zone. While this is happening, Hoomanawanui streaks in an ideal matchup and gets rewarded. You can see another example—which ends in another gain for Hoomanawanui—in the video here. The Patriots ran three of these plays, and they all ended in receptions.

http://deadspin.com/the-patriots-ann...h-e-1678818453

And the NFL has already declared EVERYTHING the Patriots did was legal.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014...e-ravens-legal

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	That all looks good but I will not accept the striking of the word 'asterisks' since, as of today, Tom Brady has never won a Super Bowl where his team didn't cheat to gain an unfair competitive advantage. Other than that, great!
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01-11-2015, 10:25 PM	#104
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Tom Brady does, IMO, deserve a Super Bowl without an asterisk. He's a good guy. I hope he gets one next year. He shouldn't have to retire without a real Super Bowl ring.
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