Chris Clemons?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

This guy just got cut despite being PFF's #16 ranked safety during preseason. Would honestly probably start here... this is a key move if they can pull it off.

[mcaj22]

we're all of a sudden suppose to trust those Patriot Tree failures when it comes to evaluating talent? Like when they couldnt evaluate Jason Babin, Wade Smith, Wallace Gilberry here and let them walk out the door? Yea I don't trust Pats Failures to tell me if Chris Clemons stinks or if Kendrick Lewis is better than him. Romeo is the same guy that started Sabby Piscitelli and Stanford Routt here so I don't buy that for a second.

[Titty Meat]

This broke dick couldnt beat out Kendrick Lewis

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

we're all of a sudden suppose to trust those Patriot Tree failures when it comes to evaluating talent? Like when they couldnt evaluate Jason Babin, Wade Smith, Wallace Gilberry here and let them walk out the door? Yea I don't trust Pats Failures to tell me if Chris Clemons stinks or if Kendrick Lewis is better than him. Romeo is the same guy that started Sabby Piscitelli and Stanford Routt here so I don't buy that for a second.

Um....
Clemons was on the free agency market for a million and a half years. He's a starter and could only pull in ~$2M. He's been a free agent for days and you would think someone would swoop him up in a split second. Nobody's biting. Even though he's probably going to play for damn near the vet minimum. Even his old team (the Dolphins) who is desperate for safety help won't take him back knowing he'll play pretty much for free.

It's not 1 team. The entire league is passing on him. I have no idea why but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with injury or talent.

[Saccopoo]

CP: Kendrick Lewis was the worst safety in the league.

Fact: Kendrick Lewis was the worst safety in the league.

CP: Our safeties still suck.

Fact: Not really. Berry and Abdullah are solid. Abdullah, with a full off-season of training under his belt should prove to be a pretty good FS for the team.

CP: But there is a rookie on the team that is white playing the position so I know he's slow!!!! We're doomed!!!

Fact: Sorensen is indeed Caucasian. However, he is not slow.:

In the workout drills, Sorensen stood out in the 3-cone drill and shuttle runs. The 3-cone drill tests an athlete's ability to change directions at high speeds, while the shuttle runs test lateral quickness, explosion and acceleration.

Sorensen not only turned in the fastest 3-cone drill by any defensive back but also the top time by any player at any position in the entire combine. His time of 6.47 seconds was also the fastest time recorded at a combine since 2006 by a safety, the second-best time among all defensive backs including corners, and the fifth-fastest performance from any position overall in that timeframe.

Sorensen ran a 10.80-second time in the 60-yard shuttle to record the top time by any safety in the past nine combines and the fourth-fastest 60-yard shuttle time among all combine participants at any position over that timeframe.

The BYU safety again topped all defensive backs at this year's combine (20 yard shuttle) and finished tied for fifth among all positions overall with a time of 3.95 seconds. Only one safety since 2006 has recorded a faster time at the combine than Sorensen. Including corners, Sorensen's time is tied for ninth since 2006 among all defensive backs.

CP: Sorensen can't tackle or hit!!! We're doomed!!!

Fact: Yes, he can.

Dependable tackler. Enough range to make some plays on the ball and jump routes. Football is important to him and takes it very seriously. Makes the secondary calls and checks and understands coverages like a coach. Prepares like a pro. Tough, durable, solid producer. Reliable special teams contributor.

Physical presence in the secondary because he can hit hard, but also form tackle decently as well.

Quick up the field defending the run or screen passes, wraps up when tackling, and brings opponents down in the open field. Remains disciplined with assignments, works well with cornerbacks, and shows ball skills facing the action.

Sorensen is a hard-hitting safety prospect who plays with great instincts, quickness and tenacity. Possesses a thick, athletic frame that he utilizes as an intimidating presence over the middle. Shows the ability to cover ground quickly and is best breaking on underneath routes. Flashes great read-and-recognition skills.

CP: Despite all that bullshit, I think he sucks and we need to bring in Chris Clemons to be our backup safety.

Fact: Chris Clemons just got beat out by Kendrick Lewis and was released. The same Kendrick Lewis that was the worst safety in the league last season.

CP: I don't care!!!! There is a white guy in our secondary!!! I don't give a flip if he's primarily on special teams for the 2014 season, he's white!!!! We're doomed!!!

Fact: Your and idiot.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Um....
Clemons was on the free agency market for a million and a half years. He's a starter and could only pull in ~$2M. He's been a free agent for days and you would think someone would swoop him up in a split second. Nobody's biting. Even though he's probably going to play for damn near the vet minimum. Even his old team (the Dolphins) who is desperate for safety help won't take him back knowing he'll play pretty much for free.

It's not 1 team. The entire league is passing on him. I have no idea why but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with injury or talent.

what about all the starters here signed that could only pull in 3 mill? Joe Mays, Vance Walker, Donnie Avery, Mike Devito.

What's that say about all the trash JAG FAs the Chiefs sign? It's no different really.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

what about all the starters here signed that could only pull in 3 mill? Joe Mays, Vance Walker, Donnie Avery, Mike Devito.

What's that say about all the trash JAG FAs the Chiefs sign? It's no different really.

The fact that those guys have less talent than Clemons and are making more money says a lot. And again, I am not just talking about our JAGs. There are JAGs on every team. For whatever reason, no team wants to bite at Clemons. Not the Seahawks. Not the 49ers. Not the Broncos. Not the Packers. Nobody.

There is something going on here off the field. It just doesn't add up. Our team makes dumb decisions about passing guys up all the time. When you have the best personnel teams in the league not willing to sign a quality starter like Clemons for vet minimum, something is up.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The fact that those guys have less talent than Clemons and are making more money says a lot. And again, I am not just talking about our JAGs. There are JAGs on every team. For whatever reason, no team wants to bite at Clemons. Not the Seahawks. Not the 49ers. Not the Broncos. Not the Packers. Nobody.

There is something going on here off the field. It just doesn't add up. Our team makes dumb decisions about passing guys up all the time. When you have the best personnel teams in the league not willing to sign a quality starter like Clemons for vet minimum, something is up.

Why would those teams sign Clemons when they already have quality starters at the FS position? This isn't Madden. They aren't going to sign someone just because they can.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

The fact that those guys have less talent than Clemons and are making more money says a lot. And again, I am not just talking about our JAGs. There are JAGs on every team. For whatever reason, no team wants to bite at Clemons. Not the Seahawks. Not the 49ers. Not the Broncos. Not the Packers. Nobody.

There is something going on here off the field. It just doesn't add up. Our team makes dumb decisions about passing guys up all the time. When you have the best personnel teams in the league not willing to sign a quality starter like Clemons for vet minimum, something is up.

Texans fans do seem pretty mad about them cutting Clemons. It be like if the Chiefs randomly cut Donnie Avery basically. People would be pissed because we have absolutely nothing else. That's basically what's happening in Houston at the safety position.

The team in question are Patriots Failures. If any fanbase should know what horrible players Romeo will use, it should be the Chiefs.

I think Clemons just made the wrong decision signing with a bad team.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Why would those teams sign Clemons when they already have quality starters at the FS position? This isn't Madden. They aren't going to sign someone just because they can.

When you're talking about a quality starter, his contract is cheap even for a backup. Any team looking for secondary depth, which is pretty much every team, would jump at the chance. And there are plenty of teams who could use an upgrade at FS who aren't biting.

He was earning about a million per year. It's not like you have to shuffle cap money around to add that. Like I said, most telling thing is the Dolphins, a team who could use secondary help and Clemons knows that system, aren't even willing to pay a million for the guy.

Something is up.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Texans fans do seem pretty mad about them cutting Clemons. It be like if the Chiefs randomly cut Donnie Avery basically. People would be pissed because we have absolutely nothing else. That's basically what's happening in Houston at the safety position.

The team in question are Patriots Failures. If any fanbase should know what horrible players Romeo will use, it should be the Chiefs.

I think Clemons just made the wrong decision signing with a bad team.

But twice Clemons has been in the open market and NOBODY wants him. Not even for less than $2M. That's the part that doesn't make sense. It's not just the Texans. It's not just the Chiefs. It's not just the Dolphins.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But twice Clemons has been in the open market and NOBODY wants him. Not even for less than $2M. That's the part that doesn't make sense. It's not just the Texans. It's not just the Chiefs. It's not just the Dolphins.

Has he even been on the market for 24 hours? Relax, he will sign with someone.

[Wilson8]

This was Clemons contract when he originally signed with Houston back in March...

S Chris Clemons signed a two year, $2.7 million contract with the Houston Texans on March 31, 2014. Clemons received $450,000 in full guarantees including a $200,000 signing bonus. In 2014 he can earn up to $250,000 in game day active roster bonuses and in 2015 can earn $500,000 in game day active roster bonuses. Base salaries are $800,000(2014) and $950,000(2015).

Texans had to pay $450,000 but they saved $700,000 against the cap this year
http://overthecap.com/player/chris-clemons/142

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Has he even been on the market for 24 hours? Relax, he will sign with someone.

For a guy of his ability, I'm sure everybody is stunned that he wasn't swooped up instantly. 24 hours is a really long time when every team is sprinting to swoop up roster cuts. It should be a no-brainer to sign him. The fact that every single team is worried about paying this guy a million dollars... there has got to be something going on.

[O.city]

Maybe he's gay?

[TEX]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Texans fans do seem pretty mad about them cutting Clemons. It be like if the Chiefs randomly cut Donnie Avery basically. People would be pissed because we have absolutely nothing else. That's basically what's happening in Houston at the safety position.

The team in question are Patriots Failures. If any fanbase should know what horrible players Romeo will use, it should be the Chiefs.

I think Clemons just made the wrong decision signing with a bad team.

They got Danieal Manning back when the Bengals released him, so its a wash...