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Old 10-06-2013, 11:01 PM  
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As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

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Old 04-24-2022, 02:01 PM   #2206
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I've not watched Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul.

I think it's time to binge watch when I go on sabbatical in June for 6-12 months.

Which one should I watch first?
You should watch Breaking Bad first. Better Call Saul is great but Breaking Bad is better.
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Old 04-24-2022, 04:57 PM   #2207
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You should watch Breaking Bad first. Better Call Saul is great but Breaking Bad is better.
Agreed. It’s good to get to know Gus and mike I’m breaking bad first. Their stories are way better as origin stories vs watching them from the very beginning.
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Old 04-24-2022, 05:21 PM   #2208
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Breaking Bad is better, largely because the first 2-3 seasons of Saul are slow and boring as hell. It gets better pretty much in proportion to how much the BB characters are incorporated. I was so glad when the brother died. His stuff in the first couple of seasons were brutal. And all of the stuff with Kim and the banking...snore...

I realize they have to set up these characters and their transformations, but what took three seasons could have been done in one. Whole lot of fluff in the first seasons.
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Old 04-24-2022, 06:01 PM   #2209
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Breaking Bad is better, largely because the first 2-3 seasons of Saul are slow and boring as hell. It gets better pretty much in proportion to how much the BB characters are incorporated. I was so glad when the brother died. His stuff in the first couple of seasons were brutal. And all of the stuff with Kim and the banking...snore...

I realize they have to set up these characters and their transformations, but what took three seasons could have been done in one. Whole lot of fluff in the first seasons.
Trash take.

The character development with Saul and Chuck was brilliant. It was more of a slow burn early on, but it was always a great show.
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Old 04-24-2022, 06:25 PM   #2210
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Trash take.

The character development with Saul and Chuck was brilliant. It was more of a slow burn early on, but it was always a great show.
What made the slow burn really hard to handle was how long it took between most of the seasons.

It's funny to me how much older everyone looks with each new season. Also the fact this is a prequel that took place before BB.

I love watching 90 year old Mike running around with his pistol lol. I mean he was old in the beginning but christ.
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Old 04-24-2022, 06:30 PM   #2211
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Breaking Bad is better, largely because the first 2-3 seasons of Saul are slow and boring as hell. It gets better pretty much in proportion to how much the BB characters are incorporated. I was so glad when the brother died. His stuff in the first couple of seasons were brutal. And all of the stuff with Kim and the banking...snore...

I realize they have to set up these characters and their transformations, but what took three seasons could have been done in one. Whole lot of fluff in the first seasons.
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Man I’d forgotten how this show does the little stuff sooooo well.

The blocking, the super close shot of a bug or the marble thing that seems super odd but has a nice little tie in.

God this show is good.
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Trash take.

The character development with Saul and Chuck was brilliant. It was more of a slow burn early on, but it was always a great show.
I agree. Though what is a little interesting is how much bcs has to split between the lawyer stuff and the drug underbelly. The latter tending to be where most of the tension is. At some point jimmy and Kim are going to get completely sucked into it. Which is why you see something like Howard Hamlin, which is so important to the story line, but it feels like small potatoes compared to the shit going on with Lalo and nacho.
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Old 04-25-2022, 08:07 AM   #2214
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I agree. Though what is a little interesting is how much bcs has to split between the lawyer stuff and the drug underbelly. The latter tending to be where most of the tension is. At some point jimmy and Kim are going to get completely sucked into it. Which is why you see something like Howard Hamlin, which is so important to the story line, but it feels like small potatoes compared to the shit going on with Lalo and nacho.
From that perspective hou have to really credit the creators for using such a slow hand on this. It would’ve been easy to move Saul into this underworld so quickly. I mean, Walt was pretty heavily invested from the very beginning. It’s going to make his final fall all the more credible and tragic. I think they’ve smartly avoided the arc everyone in breaking bad goes through where decent people get trapped in this underworld and can never return. Saul and Kim have dipped their toes in which makes for great tv anytime they get caught in it
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Trash take.

The character development with Saul and Chuck was brilliant. It was more of a slow burn early on, but it was always a great show.
BCS did a great job on character development for Saul, Mike, Gus and Hector.

Not to mention Lalo. He’s an awesome character
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Man I’d forgotten how this show does the little stuff sooooo well.

The blocking, the super close shot of a bug or the marble thing that seems super odd but has a nice little tie in.

God this show is good.
There isn’t any quality shows on like this anymore. They have all went to the streaming platforms.
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