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Old 04-11-2014, 06:14 PM  
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Would you trade Alex Smith for Colin Kaepernick straight up?
I would not. Alex is a better quarterback right now and does not have the off field incidents of Kaepernick
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:57 AM   #241
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Our Accuracy Percentage stat goes beyond your standard quarterback completion percentage, taking into account dropped passes, throw aways, spiked balls, batted passes and passes where the quarterback was hit while attempting to throw.

Acc%: Deep Passing

The Top 10

"Deep Accuracy gives a good indication of which quarterbacks were most accurate challenging defenses downfield and, with a big start in limited action in Houston, Case Keenum tops the list with a Deep Acc% of 53.1%. Rodgers is once again amongst the best here, as the only quarterback other than Keenum to finish above 50%. Super Bowl QBs Russell Wilson and Peyton Manning round out the Top 5 along with the surprise inclusion of Kellen Clemens."

Name Team Deep Acc. %
Case Keenum HST 53.1%
Aaron Rodgers GB 52.8%
Russell Wilson SEA 48.3%
Peyton Manning DEN 48.2%
Kellen Clemens STL 48.0%
Matt Cassel MIN 47.4%
Geno Smith NYJ 46.7%
Alex D. Smith KC 46.3%
Matthew McGloin OAK 45.7%
Mike Glennon TB 45.0%

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You left out he was the 37th out of 39 QBs in downfield attempts. It's nice that he has the physical ability to go downfield (nobody really questions his arm strength), but it's always been an issue if he has the mental makeup to go downfield often. The fact that Cassel is in the top 10 shows just how misleading stats can be.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:00 AM   #242
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You left out he was the 37th out of 39 QBs in downfield attempts. It's nice that he has the physical ability to go downfield (nobody really questions his arm strength), but it's always been an issue if he has the mental makeup to go downfield often. The fact that Cassel is in the top 10 shows just how misleading stats can be.
Yes, but all we heard the prior offseason was that he couldn't even complete a deep ball. At least that's the way folks acted.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:03 AM   #243
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You left out he was the 37th out of 39 QBs in downfield attempts. It's nice that he has the physical ability to go downfield (nobody really questions his arm strength), but it's always been an issue if he has the mental makeup to go downfield often. The fact that Cassel is in the top 10 shows just how misleading stats can be.
Who's supposed to be catching these downfield attempts?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...-in-first-half
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:13 AM   #244
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Who's supposed to be catching these downfield attempts?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...-in-first-half
apparently, that's just an "excuse" for the QB.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:27 AM   #245
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Your vague response was not vague enough... and it was clear for sure when you followed it up with

What an ignorant thing to say... so either you are a really clueless on your QB or you are looking for attention by blurting out inane comments.
He doesn't make the majority of his clutch plays from in the pocket. He's much better outside the pocket.

I didn't realize that I had to be 100% perfectly clear so that you couldn't argue about technicalities instead of actually bringing some substance to the conversation.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:28 AM   #246
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apparently, that's just an "excuse" for the QB.
No, it's actually a valid criticism of the WRs.

But when you only mention that, and don't ever acknowledge the shortcomings of the QB, THEN it becomes and excuse.

I'm sure you know the difference, considering you like to nitpick on technicalities and all.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:34 AM   #247
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I think somebody needs to read what Cochise posted again.

It doesn't say anything about "choking" or "failing". In fact, I don't see any absolutes in his post at all.
With respect to CK, I only said (or meant to say I guess) that if he wanted to prove the "He'll never win a super bowl" crowd wrong, his failing to generate points on three straight possessions didn't do him any favors. Doesn't make him a failure but it leaves him firmly in the column of not having proven his case, if he has one.

IMO, there is no evidence yet to suggest he's going to develop into a great passer. He has played well at times on a pretty elite team. A lot of scramblers could pile up yardage improvising with Davis, Crabtree, and Boldin out there, and win games with a defense that can cover for him when it needs to.

Situations like the 4th quarter against the Seahawks in the postseason probably tell us more, IMO.

That's what we Chiefs fans say we care about (as if we deserve to call ourselves quarterbacking snobs), the ability to win the super bowl and not regular season games... right?
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I'd like to see the game by game break down of Smith's deep pass attempts.

I'd bet that 60+% of his deep balls came in the last 7 games.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:38 AM   #249
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With respect to CK, I only said (or meant to say I guess) that if he wanted to prove the "He'll never win a super bowl" crowd wrong, his failing to generate points on three straight possessions didn't do him any favors. Doesn't make him a failure but it leaves him firmly in the column of not having proven his case, if he has one.
And again, one could say the same about Alex Smith. The Colts started their comeback in the midst of a 3-drive swing where we managed 25 yards, a fumble, and had to settle for a FG after the defense got a turnover at the Indy 28 yard line.

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IMO, there is no evidence yet to suggest he's going to develop into a great passer. He has played well at times on a pretty elite team. A lot of scramblers could pile up yardage improvising with Davis, Crabtree, and Boldin out there, and win games with a defense that can cover for him when it needs to.
Like Alex Smith did.

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Situations like the 4th quarter against the Seahawks in the postseason probably tell us more, IMO.

That's what we Chiefs fans say we care about (as if we deserve to call ourselves quarterbacking snobs), the ability to win the super bowl and not regular season games... right?
Absolutely. You're 100% right there. That's why I voted for Alex Smith.
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And again, one could say the same about Alex Smith. The Colts started their comeback in the midst of a 3-drive swing where we managed 25 yards, a fumble, and had to settle for a FG after the defense got a turnover at the Indy 28 yard line.
Shouldn't we give Alex Smith a little bit of credit for 44 points on the board or whatever it was?
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Shouldn't we give Alex Smith a little bit of credit for 44 points on the board or whatever it was?
Absolutely.

He didn't lose the game. He also didn't WIN it.

Isn't that, after all, what was said about Kaepernick?

It's not about blaming everything on Alex Smith anymore than it's not about making sure he takes zero blame.

It's about being fair and objective.
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Absolutely.

He didn't lose the game. He also didn't WIN it.

Isn't that, after all, what was said about Kaepernick?

It's not about blaming everything on Alex Smith anymore than it's not about making sure he takes zero blame.

It's about being fair and objective.
Well sure, but if we grade each QB on their performance in the respective big games, you give Alex Smith an A-, and Kaepernick a D-
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Who's supposed to be catching these downfield attempts?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...-in-first-half
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Shouldn't we give Alex Smith a little bit of credit for 44 points on the board or whatever it was?
Of course, as long as he gets a little bit of blame for the scoring drought the last 25 minutes of the game.
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