Football The Sam Bradford Fiasco in Philadelphia

oaklandhater · 04-27-2016, 02:21 PM

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The Sam Bradford Fiasco in Philadelphia
The Eagles moved up in the draft to presumably take a quarterback, leading Bradford to request a trade. It’s a bold move for a QB whose on-field numbers leave much to be desired. Plus, answering your mailbag questions about Tom Brady, Josh Norman and more

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The MMQB's Peter King, Jenny Vrentas and Gary Gramling discuss the team most likely to trade up into the first ten picks of the 2016 NFL Draft.
One point is lost in this Sam Bradford fiasco in Philadelphia: Nothing ever, ever, ever is guaranteed in football. To prove that, let’s go back in time to the 2006 draft, 10 years ago this week. The Arizona Cardinals, picking 10th overall with an aging Kurt Warner on their roster, chose USC’s Matt Leinart as their long-term quarterback of the future.
“A gift from heaven,’’ coach Dennis Green called Leinart.
Then football happened. Leinart wasn’t as good as everyone thought, and there was a coaching change after his rookie year, and Leinart didn’t like new coach Ken Whisenhunt. Warner rallied, determined to keep the starting job. By the third year of the Leinart experiment, the job was Warner’s full-time, and he led them to a Super Bowl.

Photo: Julio Cortez/AP
If Bradford, a former first overall pick, is better than Carson Wentz (the Eagles’ presumed pick at No. 2 this year), he’s going to be the starting quarterback in Philadelphia as long as he outplays the kid. Or Bradford’s going to play well enough this year to prove to the rest of the league that he deserves a shot to be some team’s long-term guy. Bradford has done no such thing yet. He’s been very good since entering the league in 2010 at making money—and not nearly as good at playing football. That is not a knock on Bradford. It is simply a fact. He’s had three injuries that have kept him out of extensive action, and it is not possible yet to judge how good he is, or whether a team should mortgage its salary cap on him.
On Monday night, Bradford’s agent, Tom Condon, explained Bradford’s thinking on Sirius XM NFL Radio: “Sam wants to play somewhere where he’s going to stay for a long time if he plays well. He wants to be the guy. He does not view himself as a stopgap quarterback.”
Every quarterback wants to be “the guy.” But Bradford simply hasn’t proven beyond a doubt that he deserves to be that guy. That’s why the Eagles gave him a two-year contract and not a five-year deal. The following numbers underscore the problem with Bradford and Condon talking as if he’s a well-established starting quarterback. In career quarterback rating, here are the 54th, 56th and 58th ranked players in NFL history:

What I would say to Bradford:
1. You have earned the right to be ticked off that the Eagles are going to draft a quarterback intended to beat you out.
2. You have not earned the right to go on strike over it.
3. You have been paid massively and so far have not produced to justify what the Rams and Eagles have paid you.
4. You control your fate. Be the best quarterback in camp, and you’ll play. Compete.

milkman · 04-27-2016, 02:28 PM

The weekly oaklandhater attention whoring.

oaklandhater · 04-27-2016, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The weekly oaklandhater attention whoring.

I haven't been on here forever at home sick so I just posted some crap on the net to talk football

milkman · 04-27-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I haven't been on here forever at home sick so I just posted some crap on the net to talk football

So, you get sick weekly?

oaklandhater · 04-27-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So, you get sick weekly?

waiting for death lol more then likely gonna have to get my gallbladder taken out in may

Toby Waller · 04-27-2016, 02:43 PM

this is unimportant. Nothing about Bradford matters in any teams post season.

he is a journeyman QB.

oaklandhater · 04-27-2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Waller

this is unimportant. Nothing about Bradford matters in any teams post season.

he is a journeyman QB.

He act's like he is a top 5 QB in the nfl.

Eleazar · 04-27-2016, 02:43 PM

Bradford seems to be under the impression he's starting QB material. How strange.

oaklandhater · 04-27-2016, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Bradford seems to be under the impression he's starting QB material. How strange.

This dude think's he's a super star.

Toby Waller · 04-27-2016, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Bradford seems to be under the impression he's starting QB material. How strange.

he has actually-started games- so yes

Eleazar · 04-27-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

This dude think's he's a super star.

It's really not a fiasco. The Eagles are prudently moving on, having seen that Bradford is mediocre at best. If he wants to get on board and compete, great. If he wants to go QB the Browns then I'm sure he can mouth off until he does.

**BossChief** · 04-27-2016, 02:55 PM

I'd rather have Ryan Fitzpatrick than Sam Bradford.

Who would trade for that guy and his stupid contract?

Philly has themselves in a bind here. If they trade Sam, they just accelerate that 11m signing bonus to their cap. Even for a 2nd round pick, that's a questionable use of resource...and nobody is gonna trade a 2 AND pay him that deal.

The most logical direction for them should have been to start Daniel while Wentz gets ready to go and to never have signed Bradford.

If they get a 2nd round pick for that 11m...at least that's something.

Toby Waller · 04-27-2016, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I'd rather have Ryan Fitzpatrick than Sam Bradford.

Who would trade for that guy and his stupid contract?

Philly has themselves in a bind here. If they trade Sam, they just accelerate that 11m signing bonus to their cap. Even for a 2nd round pick, that's a questionable use of resource...and nobody is gonna trade a 2 AND pay him that deal.

The most logical direction for them should have been to start Daniel while Wentz gets ready to go and to never have signed Bradford.

If they get a 2nd round pick for that 11m...at least that's something.

why have either? is not the ultimate goal the SB?

Neither one is getting near one unless they fall into a bizarre Trent Dilfer situation. Its not happening.

**BossChief** · 04-27-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Waller

why have either? is not the ultimate goal the SB?

Neither one is getting near one unless they fall into a bizarre Trent Dilfer situation. Its not happening.

Because you have a fan base that gives you millions of dollars, so you have an obligation to try to put the best man for the job out there.

Toby Waller · 04-27-2016, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Because you have a fan base that gives you millions of dollars, so you have an obligation to try to put the best man for the job out there.

my point is; talking about those 2 as an option is pointless.
Neither is reaching the ultimate goal.

04-27-2016, 02:21 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $7578993	The Sam Bradford Fiasco in Philadelphia http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/27/t...gles-nfl-draft The Sam Bradford Fiasco in Philadelphia The Eagles moved up in the draft to presumably take a quarterback, leading Bradford to request a trade. It’s a bold move for a QB whose on-field numbers leave much to be desired. Plus, answering your mailbag questions about Tom Brady, Josh Norman and more The team most likely to trade up is... The MMQB's Peter King, Jenny Vrentas and Gary Gramling discuss the team most likely to trade up into the first ten picks of the 2016 NFL Draft. One point is lost in this Sam Bradford fiasco in Philadelphia: Nothing ever, ever, ever is guaranteed in football. To prove that, let’s go back in time to the 2006 draft, 10 years ago this week. The Arizona Cardinals, picking 10th overall with an aging Kurt Warner on their roster, chose USC’s Matt Leinart as their long-term quarterback of the future. “A gift from heaven,’’ coach Dennis Green called Leinart. Then football happened. Leinart wasn’t as good as everyone thought, and there was a coaching change after his rookie year, and Leinart didn’t like new coach Ken Whisenhunt. Warner rallied, determined to keep the starting job. By the third year of the Leinart experiment, the job was Warner’s full-time, and he led them to a Super Bowl. Photo: Julio Cortez/AP If Bradford, a former first overall pick, is better than Carson Wentz (the Eagles’ presumed pick at No. 2 this year), he’s going to be the starting quarterback in Philadelphia as long as he outplays the kid. Or Bradford’s going to play well enough this year to prove to the rest of the league that he deserves a shot to be some team’s long-term guy. Bradford has done no such thing yet. He’s been very good since entering the league in 2010 at making money—and not nearly as good at playing football. That is not a knock on Bradford. It is simply a fact. He’s had three injuries that have kept him out of extensive action, and it is not possible yet to judge how good he is, or whether a team should mortgage its salary cap on him. On Monday night, Bradford’s agent, Tom Condon, explained Bradford’s thinking on Sirius XM NFL Radio: “Sam wants to play somewhere where he’s going to stay for a long time if he plays well. He wants to be the guy. He does not view himself as a stopgap quarterback.” Every quarterback wants to be “the guy.” But Bradford simply hasn’t proven beyond a doubt that he deserves to be that guy. That’s why the Eagles gave him a two-year contract and not a five-year deal. The following numbers underscore the problem with Bradford and Condon talking as if he’s a well-established starting quarterback. In career quarterback rating, here are the 54th, 56th and 58th ranked players in NFL history: What I would say to Bradford: 1. You have earned the right to be ticked off that the Eagles are going to draft a quarterback intended to beat you out. 2. You have not earned the right to go on strike over it. 3. You have been paid massively and so far have not produced to justify what the Rams and Eagles have paid you. 4. You control your fate. Be the best quarterback in camp, and you’ll play. Compete.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1834088	I'd rather have Ryan Fitzpatrick than Sam Bradford. Who would trade for that guy and his stupid contract? Philly has themselves in a bind here. If they trade Sam, they just accelerate that 11m signing bonus to their cap. Even for a 2nd round pick, that's a questionable use of resource...and nobody is gonna trade a 2 AND pay him that deal. The most logical direction for them should have been to start Daniel while Wentz gets ready to go and to never have signed Bradford. If they get a 2nd round pick for that 11m...at least that's something. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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