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Old 08-24-2016, 11:58 AM  
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Bosa rejects Chargers "best" offer
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Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:14 PM   #61
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Bosa is being offered a contract that no one else(top 5 pick) has accepted since 2012. They've either gotten the bonus at once or the offset language was removed. The Chargers won't do either. A similar situation happened last year with Mariota but both sides met in the middle which is something the Chargers aren't willing to do.
I'm stunned so many people are siding with SD, a team with a long history of pulling shit like this.

If you really look at what people are saying, it's basically they think he's over-rated as a player and they think that's somehow relevant. It isn't. The chargers drafted him at 3. If they didn't want to sign him, they should have traded the pick.

No other team would be having this problem right now.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:16 PM   #62
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As far as I understand top draft picks get a choice between deferred language or the bonus up front.

Chargers continue to offer neither, so they can protect themselves.

The way it's being framed in the media, which obviously supports the NFL, is that Bosa is simply demanding his full bonus up front when he's essentially asking for the same thing every other player at his draft slot has received since 2012 and what 95% of draft picks in the top 3 rounds have received in the same span.

50% up front with offset language is a bad rookie deal for Bosa, and that's what had been offered. The new offer was basically the same thing with 60% up front.

The chargers, as usual, have been active in smearing Bosa and setting the narrative that he's just a greedy asshole. The truth is they're just squeezing pennies because their shit organization is broke.
Yep. The Chargers are the ones who are ****ing themselves here. Just read this tweet:

Ian Kenyon ‏@IanKenyonNFL 14m14 minutes ago
Bosa's agent is Todd France (CAA). CAA represents like half of the first round picks each year. They won't forget this.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:16 PM   #63
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I'm stunned so many people are siding with SD, a team with a long history of pulling shit like this.

If you really look at what people are saying, it's basically they think he's over-rated as a player and they think that's somehow relevant. It isn't. The chargers drafted him at 3. If they didn't want to sign him, they should have traded the pick.

No other team would be having this problem right now.
Once again, you are right on!
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:16 PM   #64
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And then you're telling the waiter and the manager and everyone around you "this is the way it's done in every restaurant" and the chef is like



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Old 08-24-2016, 01:17 PM   #65
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Yep. The Chargers are the ones who are ****ing themselves here. Just read this tweet:

Ian Kenyon ‏@IanKenyonNFL 14m14 minutes ago
Bosa's agent is Todd France (CAA). CAA represents like half of the first round picks each year. They won't forget this.
Reminds me of when KC had Carl Peterson pulling shit like this.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:18 PM   #66
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I'm stunned so many people are siding with SD, a team with a long history of pulling shit like this.

If you really look at what people are saying, it's basically they think he's over-rated as a player and they think that's somehow relevant. It isn't. The chargers drafted him at 3. If they didn't want to sign him, they should have traded the pick.

No other team would be having this problem right now.
They side with the Chargers cause most fans don't know what goes on. I'm sure once his mom said he should pulled an Eli they bitch about it and said **** him then we don't need him on the team if he act like this.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:20 PM   #67
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:22 PM   #68
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Just look at the Chargers fans' comments on the tweets. They are unilaterally dogging the Chargers for being unreasonable dicks.

Bosa is a meathead with "stage parents" but they are well off and not desperate for money and them refusing to sign this BS contract is pretty close to goddam heroic.

Once again, the Chargers are idiots. Don't side with The Man. Down with The Man. Pro union on this one.
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:25 PM   #69
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Old 08-24-2016, 01:27 PM   #70
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Just look at the Chargers fans' comments on the tweets. They are unilaterally dogging the Chargers for being unreasonable dicks.

Bosa is a meathead with "stage parents" but they are well off and not desperate for money and them refusing to sign this BS contract is pretty close to goddam heroic.

Once again, the Chargers are idiots. Don't side with The Man. Down with The Man. Pro union on this one.
Yup. Bosa has no reason to set a precedent like the Chargers want to set here. It's not just bad for him, but bad for the 2017 draft class.

Blaming Bosa is wasting the opportunity that KC fans have here. We should be laughing at the joke that is the SD chargers organization.
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What part of this are you not getting? Signing this contract sets a precedent. This is not a greedy athlete situation, it's a situation of the Chargers trying to force a BAD DEAL on this and every future contract for almost no reason other than penny pinching idiocy.

It's not heroic, that's just my way of getting across that most players are poor and don't have the means to fight this kind of thing. The fact that they do sets up a unique situation where they can fight a STUPID OWNER doing STUPID THINGS.

I'm not a Bosa fanboy, I just hate BS contracts put together by businesses that screw their employers for almost zero reason. It reminds me of some KC corporations I worked for. This is why there is a union in the first place.

This is bigger than Bosa practicing.
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What part of this are you not getting? Signing this contract sets a precedent. This is not a greedy athlete situation, it's a situation of the Chargers trying to force a BAD DEAL on this and every future contract for almost no reason other than penny pinching idiocy.

It's not heroic, that's just my way of getting across that most players are poor and don't have the means to fight this kind of thing. The fact that they do sets up a unique situation where they can fight a STUPID OWNER doing STUPID THINGS.

I'm not a Bosa fanboy, I just hate BS contracts put together by businesses that screw their employers for almost zero reason. It reminds me of some KC corporations I worked for. This is why there is a union in the first place.

This is bigger than Bosa practicing.
Yet to hear you specifically tell us why this a bad deal?
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What part of this are you not getting? Signing this contract sets a precedent. This is not a greedy athlete situation, it's a situation of the Chargers trying to force a BAD DEAL on this and every future contract for almost no reason other than penny pinching idiocy.

It's not heroic, that's just my way of getting across that most players are poor and don't have the means to fight this kind of thing. The fact that they do sets up a unique situation where they can fight a STUPID OWNER doing STUPID THINGS.

I'm not a Bosa fanboy, I just hate BS contracts put together by businesses that screw their employers for almost zero reason. It reminds me of some KC corporations I worked for. This is why there is a union in the first place.

This is bigger than Bosa practicing.
He's only screwing his own future up.
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Yet to hear you specifically tell us why this a bad deal?
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