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Old 03-18-2014, 04:10 PM   #1
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No, Science does not say the universe happened by chance. The Big Bang theory doesn't actually address the creation of the universe. Because science currently doesn't have the technology to find any evidence of what happened before the universe began expanding.
The findings in the OP were never meant to explain the "Why". The findings were meant to show that one of the major predictions for evidence of the Big Bang has actually been verified, giving more validity to the Big Bang theory as a whole.
I'll never know why some see it as an either or.

Why can't the Big Bang be Gods plan? Why can't evolution be Gods plan?

Science is based on fact. Religion is based on faith. They are not competing on the same turf.
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Old 03-18-2014, 06:32 PM   #2
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I'll never know why some see it as an either or.

Why can't the Big Bang be Gods plan? Why can't evolution be Gods plan?

Science is based on fact. Religion is based on faith. They are not competing on the same turf.
Because if this is true, its the worst plan in all the universes.
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Because if this is true, its the worst plan in all the universes.
Because it's self-evolving, right? God's plan CAN'T be true because he screwed up by not making everything "perfect" instantly, despite God himself being "perfect", right?

Think about this for a second. What would be the point of making everything perfect the first time? Don't you think it would be too easy?
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Because it's self-evolving, right? God's plan CAN'T be true because he screwed up by not making everything "perfect" instantly, despite God himself being "perfect", right?

Think about this for a second. What would be the point of making everything perfect the first time? Don't you think it would be too easy?
- Define "perfect"

- Define "God"
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Science is based on fact. Religion is based on faith. They are not competing on the same turf.
Actually I would argue that's not entirely the case, as I believe both the establishment of science and the establishment of religion are highly dogmatic and conservative institutions that have a great deal of difficulty dealing with ideas that are either outside of or in opposition to their accepted norms. Human nature, after all.

The difference of course being that, over time, science can actually change. Slowly, kicking and screaming the whole time, but it can change. Because as you mention at its core it's based on observation.

But, in any case, I would say that they do in many ways compete for the same turf, as you put it. At the end of the day it's all about trying to quantify the universe and our place (if any) in it.
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