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Old 05-13-2020, 11:47 AM   Topic Starter
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We gotta talk about this UDFA class.

The amount of skill and potential from this UDFA class the Chiefs secures is as good as any I’ve ever seen for any team. It’s possible we land three starters from this group, and end up with up to seven guys that contribute regularly over the next three years.

How the hell did Veach do this?

Give us your thoughts on individual players from the UDFA class. Veach needs to knock it out of the park like this every year.
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Old 05-13-2020, 11:50 AM   #2
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The amount of skill and potential from this UDFA class the Chiefs secures is as good as any I’ve ever seen for any team. It’s possible we land three starters from this group, and end up with up to seven guys that contribute regularly over the next three years.

How the hell did Veach do this?

Give us your thoughts on individual players from the UDFA class. Veach needs to knock it out of the park like this every year.
Impossible! I was told no UDFA's would want to sign here

Yeah, it's hard to make a judgment on an UDFA class because these are generally under the radar guys, but by any measure I can find, Veach absolutely crushed it. Only time can tell but there's a distinct possibility that Veach will further distance himself from some other GMs in this league w/ this UDFA class.

This is an excellent opportunity to show off a bit if you're truly exceptional. Could turn out that Veach is precisely that.
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Old 05-13-2020, 11:56 AM   #3
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Who are the 3 potential starters?
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:09 PM   #4
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Who are the 3 potential starters?
My guess as to who he’s referring to:

Williams, Wright, and Hill/Davis?
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:25 PM   #5
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Here is Gil Brandt’s undrafted rankings:

https://amp.nfl.com/news/top-undraft...3EAEAEA&sr=amp

Kalija Lipscomb WR, Yasir Durant OT and Javaris Davis CB were the best undrafted pickups at their position on this list. Darryl Williams IOL was 2nd on his positional list.

I’m a bit bummed we didn’t get Benito Jones. He looked like a very similar player to Derrick Nnandi but with ascending pass rush talent.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:27 PM   #6
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Williams and Townsend are likely starters, and then we have like three other guys in Durant, Wright, and Clemons who I think, among them, we’ll rope in a starter.

That doesn’t even include Lipscomb, Boccelli, Hill, and Javaris Davis.

This UDFA class is like 5 additional day three picks that we got for free, cap-wise.
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Old 05-13-2020, 12:45 PM   #7
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Williams and Townsend are likely starters, and then we have like three other guys in Durant, Wright, and Clemons who I think, among them, we’ll rope in a starter.

That doesn’t even include Lipscomb, Boccelli, Hill, and Javaris Davis.

This UDFA class is like 5 additional day three picks that we got for free, cap-wise.
I really do like what they've done throwing options at the IOL in the last couple of years. I even thought the GM's kid out of TN was a solid gamble (McKenzie?).

Williams is someone that I forget about a lot but he's damn intriguing. Durant isn't someone I see every playing LT at this level but with some luck he might be a good long-term replacement for someone like Remmers. They clearly have an approach here and it's just churning through as many toolsy options as possible in the hopes that 2 or 3 of them stick.

My big worry there isn't even Veach or the coaching staff writ large - it's Andy. He is so reluctant to make changes on his OL in-season. Guys that are clearly struggling will hang onto that starters gig like grim death. I'm not sure Rankin or Wiz ever get a legit shot without the injuries on the interior despite Wylie's struggles. It also makes me worry that Reiter is pretty much a lead pipe lock to hold that job at C absent injury.

Continuity is just such an overriding factor for Red that I'm curious how any of these developmental projects will get a look. The DBs get turned over a bit and LBs get a little as well, but he just doesn't rotate his OL much.
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I actually don’t think any of them, except Townsend, get any shot on the field in 2020.

We’re going to need to develop these guys for 2021, though.
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I actually don’t think any of them, except Townsend, get any shot on the field in 2020.

We’re going to need to develop these guys for 2021, though.
No doubt - like I said in your other thread, year 1 contributions from 3rd day picks (let alone UDFAs) are happy accidents - you definitely can't count on them.

I could see one of the DBs getting pressed into action early due to the Breeland suspension, if only in a STs role. And maybe working that Fenton/Ward track to late season relevance. A handful of interesting LBs that could unseat someone like Niemann given Spags affinity for more physical LBs and our relative lack of depth.

But yeah, these are loooooong shots to be sure.
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We’re going to need to develop these guys for 2021, though.
Veach will have to have a lot of UDFA’s make the team when Mahomes is getting $50 million per year.

UDFA’s making the team in 2020:

1. Tommy Townsend
2. Javaris Davis
3. Rodney Clemens
4. Omari Cobb
5. Cody White
6. Darryl Williams
7. Yasir Durant
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Veach will have to have a lot of UDFA’s make the team when Mahomes is getting $50 million per year.

UDFA’s making the team in 2020:

1. Tommy Townsend
2. Javaris Davis
3. Rodney Clemens
4. Omari Cobb
5. Cody White
6. Darryl Williams
7. Yasir Durant
Javaris Davis is a ****ing monster. How did this guy go undrafted? Must be his size only.

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Veach will have to have a lot of UDFA’s make the team when Mahomes is getting $50 million per year.

UDFA’s making the team in 2020:

1. Tommy Townsend
2. Javaris Davis
3. Rodney Clemens
4. Omari Cobb
5. Cody White
6. Darryl Williams
7. Yasir Durant
Seems Veach has a plan to shape the roster around the Mahomes and possibly a Jones extension, by going in big on quality UFDAs.

He paid some big UFDA signing bonuses for a reason.
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Seems Veach has a plan to shape the roster around the Mahomes and possibly a Jones extension, by going in big on quality UFDAs.

He paid some big UFDA signing bonuses for a reason.
Good grief.

The Chiefs had to overpay for certain players because if he hadn't, they'd have signed with another team.

Last year, the Chiefs gave out $40k+ to multiple UDFA's and not one of them made it to the 53 last season. Cody Thompson, another CP hero, didn't make the 53, lasted about a week on the PS, signed with Seattle and was dumped by them during the season.

These guys are UDFA's for a reason and the likelihood that any of them make the 55 this year is slim.
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Good grief.

The Chiefs had to overpay for certain players because if he hadn't, they'd have signed with another team.

Last year, the Chiefs gave out $40k+ to multiple UDFA's and not one of them made it to the 53 last season. Cody Thompson, another CP hero, didn't make the 53, lasted about a week on the PS, signed with Seattle and was dumped by them during the season.

These guys are UDFA's for a reason and the likelihood that any of them make the 55 this year is slim.

If you are paying Mahomes $50M+ each year than you are going to have a lot of UDFA’s make the team.

Veteran guy making $5 million or a UDFA that can do the job. You figure it out. Duh
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Veach will have to have a lot of UDFA’s make the team when Mahomes is getting $50 million per year.

UDFA’s making the team in 2020:

1. Tommy Townsend
2. Javaris Davis
3. Rodney Clemens
4. Omari Cobb
5. Cody White
6. Darryl Williams
7. Yasir Durant


You're certifiable if you think that 7 UDFA's are going to make the 55 this season.

How many UDFA's have made the Chiefs roster their rookie seasons in the past decade?
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