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Old 03-19-2018, 01:11 PM   #1
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I thought it was reported they tried but decided to go to 3?
Nope.

DP clearly said this AM that they are still trying to get to 1.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:24 AM   #2
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The Jets are trying to move up to 1, per dan Patrick. Already called and are negotiating.
Holy shit, if true.

The amount of draft capital they would have to give up to go from 3 to 1, on top of what they already gave up to go to 3 from 6.

You better be drafting Peyton ****ing Manning for that price. No QB in this draft is worth giving up that much for.
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Old 03-19-2018, 08:17 AM   #3
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Lulz. There isn't a QB worthy of that. ****.
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:09 AM   #4
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Old 03-19-2018, 10:12 AM   #5
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The Jets? My theory is that they're trying to get above the Broncos to draft that guard.
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Eh, I’ve heard they’ve got their eyes on Blair Thomas.
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:47 PM   #7
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Eh, I’ve heard they’ve got their eyes on Blair Thomas.
A can't miss prospect if there ever was one.
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Old 03-19-2018, 12:38 PM   #8
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Look, I love me some Kareem Hunt, but trying to make the argument he’s as good and as talented as Barkley? I just don’t see it. If you offered me either one right now, same contracts, same theoretical situation, I’m taking Barkley every day and twice on Sunday. No, there’s no guarantees and he could sustain a serious injury or something, but he’s as close to a sure thing since Bo Jackson at RB. He’s that good.

We’ll see, I guess . . . .

And FTR, Hunt has a a LOT to work on with his blocking. His pass protection ‘skills’ got exposed several times last year and put the Chiefs in a hole. Luckily, that’s something he can work on and be taught.
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Old 03-19-2018, 06:23 PM   #9
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Agree. Barkley isn't a product of hype. Did you not watch the dude play?

The fact is you can find a great RB elsewhere in the draft, especially throughout the first three rounds. Barkley is special. If I had two early first rounders, I'd take him and a QB and not blink for a second.
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The Chiefs have had pretty good luck picking up RB's in the mid rounds. If you do enough research and vetting, there should be no reason to spend a first on a dedicated RB.

An exceptional, once in a lifetime talent with elite RB skills, hands of glue, and the ability to perform outside of traditional RB paradigms would be worthy of at least considering a first round pick though.
But that doesn't come around too often.
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You might want to Google Saquan Barkley film and his ridiculous Combine numbers

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On Thursday, Barkley bench-pressed 225 pounds 29 times, tied for the most by any running back here. Browns tackle Joe Thomas, a 10-time Pro Bowler, only benched it 28 times at the 2007 combine.

Then on Friday, Barkley’s 10-yard split was a blazing 1.54 seconds. That was one hundredth of a second better than Buccaneers wide receiver DeSean Jackson’s 1.55 in 2008.

In the 40-yard dash, Barkley recorded a time of 4.40 seconds, the second-best time among the running backs. Devin Hester, known as one of the fastest kick returners in NFL history, had a time of 4.43 in 2006.

Finally, Barkley’s vertical jump came in at 41 inches, the best at the combine so far. Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones had a vertical of 38 ½ inches in 2011.
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Look, I love me some Kareem Hunt, but trying to make the argument he’s as good and as talented as Barkley? I just don’t see it. If you offered me either one right now, same contracts, same theoretical situation, I’m taking Barkley every day and twice on Sunday. No, there’s no guarantees and he could sustain a serious injury or something, but he’s as close to a sure thing since Bo Jackson at RB. He’s that good.

We’ll see, I guess . . . .

And FTR, Hunt has a a LOT to work on with his blocking. His pass protection ‘skills’ got exposed several times last year and put the Chiefs in a hole. Luckily, that’s something he can work on and be taught.
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I have been pounding the table that SB is head and shoulders above a very already deep RB class(which already say's a ton i.e. to SB's talent) this year if not most or all NFL RBs right now. He is that special and is the extreme exception to the rule which that rule is now changing because the RB is far more involved in the NFL passing game. And with an elite talent like Barkley you just don't flippantly dismiss this rare talent that can do so many dynamic things in your offense RIGHT NOW !! And you are correct he is the closest thing since the likes of Bo Jackson.
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Old 03-19-2018, 09:03 PM   #10
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Exactly !!!!
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I have been pounding the table that SB is head and shoulders above a very already deep RB class(which already say's a ton i.e. to SB's talent) this year if not most or all NFL RBs right now. He is that special and is the extreme exception to the rule which that rule is now changing because the RB is far more involved in the NFL passing game. And with an elite talent like Barkley you just don't flippantly dismiss this rare talent that can do so many dynamic things in your offense RIGHT NOW !! And you are correct he is the closest thing since the likes of Bo Jackson.
Bo Jackson my ass. He isn't even AP.
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Bo Jackson my ass. He isn't even AP.
He could be AD or Rickey Williams, but he isn't a freak athlete like Bo, Herschel Walker, or Earl Campbell.
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He could be AD or Rickey Williams, but he isn't a freak athlete like Bo, Herschel Walker, or Earl Campbell.
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:40 PM   #13
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I have a hard time seeing Dorsey move off having the pick of QB's at 1. If NYG are going QB (and they should be) they aren't moving either.

Hard to see the Jets being able to move up any higher than they are.

Also makes that #4 Browns pick the one that will be in play for QB 4 should that arise. Have to be a HUGE haul for me to move back if I've got my choice of the #1 QB and the #1 not QB on the board in the same draft.
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I have a hard time seeing Dorsey move off having the pick of QB's at 1. If NYG are going QB (and they should be) they aren't moving either.

Hard to see the Jets being able to move up any higher than they are.

Also makes that #4 Browns pick the one that will be in play for QB 4 should that arise. Have to be a HUGE haul for me to move back if I've got my choice of the #1 QB and the #1 not QB on the board in the same draft.
Browns should keep #4, trade #1 to BUF for the #12 and #24.
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Browns should keep #4, trade #1 to BUF for the #12 and #24.
They can get way more than that for the #1 pick.
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