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Old 01-04-2013, 10:30 PM   #1
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I just want to remind everyone that almost everyone was just about as excited when the Chiefs signed Pioli as they are now.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:39 PM   #2
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I just want to remind everyone that almost everyone was just about as excited when the Chiefs signed Pioli as they are now.
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:09 PM   #3
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I just want to remind everyone that almost everyone was just about as excited when the Chiefs signed Pioli as they are now.
True story! I'm just glad Fat Albert was canned along with piece of s Pioli! I'm giving Reid a fair chance but I'm not overly jumping up and down thrilled until he proves something in KC!
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:38 PM   #4
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I just want to remind everyone that almost everyone was just about as excited when the Chiefs signed Pioli as they are now.
Was just thinking this.
Also thinking about how this is the second time in a row that Clark has landed what was considered to be the Top guy available for the position that he was trying to fill.
He obviously does not **** around when it comes to hiring the guy that he wants running his franchise.
Thank You Clark. I'm very happy to have you as an owner.
You have proven that you will do what is necessary to turn this team into a winner.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:31 AM   #5
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I just want to remind everyone that almost everyone was just about as excited when the Chiefs signed Pioli as they are now.
So what? The two situations are as different as night and day.

Pioli had never run an organization before. It's apparent to everyone now that Pioli was nothing more than Belichick's errand boy, and he was completely unprepared to do the job he was hired to do.

We are excited about this hire because Andy Reid has has already done this, and he's been wildly successful at it. He has proven that he can do this.

The ONLY possible concern would be the 8-8 and 4-12 records of the last two years. I heard a caller on one of the local radio stations say how much that concerned him, and he went on to say that he can't think of a single coach who has gone to another team and been successful after a couple of years like that.

I wanted to yell at the radio and tell that idiot that he obviously doesn't follow the NFL, because I can think of SIX coaches right off the top of my head who got fired after one or more bad seasons with their original teams and then went to different teams and took them (at least) to the playoffs: Bill Belichick, John Fox, Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan, Pete Carroll, and our very own Marty Schottenheimer. With the exception of Bellichick, all of those coaches won division titles with their original team before they got fired.

If you're looking for a parallel in Chiefs history, it isn't the hiring of Scott Pioli. It's the hiring of Marty Schottenheimer. Marty never got us to the promised land, but he took us on a helluva ride for 10 years.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:48 AM   #6
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So what? The two situations are as different as night and day.

Pioli had never run an organization before. It's apparent to everyone now that Pioli was nothing more than Belichick's errand boy, and he was completely unprepared to do the job he was hired to do.

We are excited about this hire because Andy Reid has has already done this, and he's been wildly successful at it. He has proven that he can do this.

The ONLY possible concern would be the 8-8 and 4-12 records of the last two years. I heard a caller on one of the local radio stations say how much that concerned him, and he went on to say that he can't think of a single coach who has gone to another team and been successful after a couple of years like that.

I wanted to yell at the radio and tell that idiot that he obviously doesn't follow the NFL, because I can think of SIX coaches right off the top of my head who got fired after one or more bad seasons with their original teams and then went to different teams and took them (at least) to the playoffs: Bill Belichick, John Fox, Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan, Pete Carroll, and our very own Marty Schottenheimer. With the exception of Bellichick, all of those coaches won division titles with their original team before they got fired.

If you're looking for a parallel in Chiefs history, it isn't the hiring of Scott Pioli. It's the hiring of Marty Schottenheimer. Marty never got us to the promised land, but he took us on a helluva ride for 10 years.
You nailed it on your last part. As of right now, he is a very good coach who hasn't proven he can win the big game. And regardless of his playoff win/loss record, anyone in the NFC East can attest that those wins came despite some questionable game management on Reid' part.

The last time around, I trusted Pioli in the same way Hunt did. That was a mistake, and we have to be careful about that. If we repeat history, we'll definitely give him way too much power and we'll extend his contract regardless of how he performs. Like I said before... the DC decision shouldn't be his, he should have say in personnel but hopefully learn to trust his talent evaluators, and in year 5 we have to decide what level of success is acceptable to extend his contract (given the Chiefs' history... they'd be content with "good enough.")
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