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Old 02-14-2013, 11:48 AM   #1
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Can I ask a simple question here?

Since when is a first round QB only worth it if he starts from day one?

Eli Manning didn't start from day one. Aaron Rodgers didn't start from day one. Carson Palmer didn't start from day one.

I realize that many, many did, but many of them failed as well. And despite my hatred for Palmer, he was having a good career before his knee got destroyed. Lost all power on his throws after that.

This article even says that the Broncos will be heavy favorites and it will take KC a few years to become contenders again. Even though that's bullshit in the modern NFL, shouldn't that make us MORE willing to pull the trigger on a QB that might take some time to become a reliable starter?

These people just have absolutely no secondary logic. They get one idea in their heads and run with it, never once considering the opposing thought.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:48 AM   #2
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Let Albert walk
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:50 AM   #3
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Let Albert walk
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Forget the draft for a minute.

Why are you letting a LT walk when he's statistically top half and arguably top 10 in the league?
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:51 AM   #4
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Forget the draft for a minute.

Why are you letting a LT walk when he's statistically top half and arguably top 10 in the league?
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:52 AM   #5
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Forget the draft for a minute.

Why are you letting a LT walk when he's statistically top half and arguably top 10 in the league?
Because he's the guy from SI.

Lets CREATE a hole on the team so we can fill that hole in the draft with our #1!

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Old 02-14-2013, 11:55 AM   #6
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Forget the draft for a minute.

Why are you letting a LT walk when he's statistically top half and arguably top 10 in the league?
Can't really forget the draft though can you? They're tied together. No different that letting Bowe walk and getting a replacement. Contracts get ugly and $10M is still a lotta dough that could be spent on free agents and new signees.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:02 PM   #7
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Can't really forget the draft though can you? They're tied together. No different that letting Bowe walk and getting a replacement. Contracts get ugly and $10M is still a lotta dough that could be spent on free agents and new signees.
Ok, imma be calm and rational with you because you've never given me a reason not too...but.....

Can you explain to me...And i mean a good explanation.....how Artificially CREATING a hole on your offense to simply fill that void with the #1 pick will make the offense better?

In what world....with ANYTHING, not just football, does it make sense to create a problem for yourself for the sole reason of fixing (maybe) fixing it later just to get the same results?

How does that make sense?
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:17 PM   #8
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Ok, imma be calm and rational with you because you've never given me a reason not too...but.....

Can you explain to me...And i mean a good explanation.....how Artificially CREATING a whole on your offense to simply fill that void with the #1 pick will make the offense better?

In what world....with ANYTHING, not just football, does it make sense to create a problem for yourself for the sole reason of fixing (maybe) fixing it later just to get the same results?

How does that make sense?

I wanna be rich. I have $1,000. Im going to go ahead and flush $500 down the toilet....but in 1 month, I'll get that $500 back. Is that a good way to start building your savings?
I see your point. But my premise was based more on Andy Reid's history of drafting LT's and CB's. He could very well go with Milliner and keep Albert. None of us know what goes on behind the scenes w/contracts (and I'm no expert there).

It's just that the best "can't miss" guy this year happens to be Joeckel. If they can move Albert to make room for him, so be it.

And let's not get too hyped up on Albert's talents. Couple years ago, folks here wanted to move him to G.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:14 PM   #9
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Ok, imma be calm and rational with you because you've never given me a reason not too...but.....

Can you explain to me...And i mean a good explanation.....how Artificially CREATING a hole on your offense to simply fill that void with the #1 pick will make the offense better?

In what world....with ANYTHING, not just football, does it make sense to create a problem for yourself for the sole reason of fixing (maybe) fixing it later just to get the same results?

How does that make sense?
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:05 PM   #10
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Can't really forget the draft though can you? They're tied together. No different that letting Bowe walk and getting a replacement. Contracts get ugly and $10M is still a lotta dough that could be spent on free agents and new signees.
Absolutely CAN forget the draft.

You just don't WANT to because it's the foundation of your argument.

You think you can get an upgrade to Albert at 1/4 of the cost.

Without the draft, you can't possibly justify letting Albert go. You'd simply look cheap.

As it stands, you look cheap AND reckless.
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Old 02-14-2013, 05:11 PM   #11
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Forget the draft for a minute.

Why are you letting a LT walk when he's statistically top half and arguably top 10 in the league?
This! And, I'm getting sick and tired of seeing players the Chiefs have let walk over the years wind up as starters on other teams in the playoffs and Superbowls, while the Chiefs remain consistenly under the cap year-in and year-out!
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Good plan to downgrade at LT when trying to develop a rookie QB.
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