Life Tip for Job Seekers - Page 12

**Rain Man** · 09-23-2014, 11:11 AM

Show up at your freakin' interview on time. Seriously. If you show up 45 minutes late to a JOB INTERVIEW, it makes a BAD IMPRESSION. I don't care if you missed your bus or overslept or had other things going on. I don't care at all.

There are no excuses for being late to a job interview. Zero. If you were pulling people out of a burning car en route to the interview, that's great and I commend you for it, but it only takes three minutes to pull people out of a burning car. You should have planned ahead to be within sight of the interview location an hour before your interview. You should still be on time, but with a slight aroma of burning rubber and a great story for me.

I guess possibly if you were on your way to an interview in Holland and you saw a dam breaking, and you put your finger in the dam, and it then took an hour for the dam repairers to show up, then that might be a feasible excuse since you saved countless lives. But I'd still want to see it on the news that evening, and I'd want to know that there were no other people around who could have switched fingers with you.

Here's how you go to a job interview:

1. Drive to the interview with plans to be there an hour early.
2. Walk to the front door of the place an hour early just to be sure you know where it is.
3. Go to the nearest coffee shop and check out the company's web site and come up with some good questions and talking points.
4. Show up 10 minutes early.

Sheesh. Humanity amazes me sometimes.

kc rush · 09-25-2014, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Ok, thanks.

I've recently-ish graduated from college and have been getting little to no response on the job market. I'm figuring my resume is pretty weak in itself (to a potential employer I'm really only qualified to work in a restaurant) but the length at which I've gone without a serious call back or offer makes me wonder if it has more to do with the way my resume is put together..

What is your degree in and what type of jobs are you applying for?

Discuss Thrower · 09-25-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Good luck man!

Thanks. At the exrteme least it's in-person interview experience which is something I have a distinct lack of.

**Rain Man** · 09-25-2014, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

You'd prefer references be listed on the résumé itself? Or just no mention of it at all?

I recognize that I may be a lone voice in the wilderness on this, but I can't stand the whole reference thing. If a person can't come up with a list of two or three people who like them, then I can probably tell that in the interview. Hitler could list Mussolini and Goering as references. What does that tell me?

If I want to check references, I'll ask in the interview who their supervisors were, and I'll call them.

Bruiser · 09-25-2014, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I recognize that I may be a lone voice in the wilderness on this, but I can't stand the whole reference thing. If a person can't come up with a list of two or three people who like them, then I can probably tell that in the interview. Hitler could list Mussolini and Goering as references. What does that tell me?

If I want to check references, I'll ask in the interview who their supervisors were, and I'll call them.

Agree on everything here.

Bruiser · 09-25-2014, 10:56 PM

**morphius** · 09-26-2014, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I recognize that I may be a lone voice in the wilderness on this, but I can't stand the whole reference thing. If a person can't come up with a list of two or three people who like them, then I can probably tell that in the interview. Hitler could list Mussolini and Goering as references. What does that tell me?

If I want to check references, I'll ask in the interview who their supervisors were, and I'll call them.

It is interesting that in Colorado that you can call the supervisor, my belief is that in KS all a supervisor/manager/company can tell you is that they worked for you.

Halfcan · 09-26-2014, 03:46 PM

Update:

Had a great interview today! Thanks for all the tips on here. Should know in a couple of days-they turned in the request to HR. It is not the job I thought but a hybrid supervisor job above the job I was applying for. Huge salary and probably the best benefit package I have ever seen-including free life insurance. Benefits and paid vacation begin on the first day.

I am trying not to get too excited about it until the deal closes- but now after seeing how awesome the company is, really hoping it pans out. Thanks again everyone-I used some of the tips on here and was not nervous at all.

**Rain Man** · 09-26-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

It is interesting that in Colorado that you can call the supervisor, my belief is that in KS all a supervisor/manager/company can tell you is that they worked for you.

I suspect you can call a supervisor anywhere. Getting them to talk to you is the hard part. Many companies will have a policy of just verifying employment and stating whether the employee is eligible for rehire, but they'll often give you non-verbal grunting clues that tell you what you need to know.

I had someone call me for a reference on an ex-employee once, and I'll give someone a good reference if they were a good employee. Why not? But this prospective employer then asked if they could have the employee's personnel files and performance reviews. They were a law firm and assured me that it was legal, but I declined to do that. That seemed over the top to ask of me.

**Rain Man** · 09-26-2014, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Update:

Had a great interview today! Thanks for all the tips on here. Should know in a couple of days-they turned in the request to HR. It is not the job I thought but a hybrid supervisor job above the job I was applying for. Huge salary and probably the best benefit package I have ever seen-including free life insurance. Benefits and paid vacation begin on the first day.

I am trying not to get too excited about it until the deal closes- but now after seeing how awesome the company is, really hoping it pans out. Thanks again everyone-I used some of the tips on here and was not nervous at all.

Good luck to you, my friend. I hope you're able to wrestle it to a pin.

**Bugeater** · 09-26-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

It is interesting that in Colorado that you can call the supervisor, my belief is that in KS all a supervisor/manager/company can tell you is that they worked for you.

That's what I've been told, but I can't help but wonder how often it's really adhered to. Do you really think that a prospective employer is going to rat on a former employer for giving them information that they likely want to hear? I seriously doubt it.

**morphius** · 09-26-2014, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Baconeater

That's what I've been told, but I can't help but wonder how often it's really adhered to. Do you really think that a prospective employer is going to rat on a former employer for giving them information that they likely want to hear? I seriously doubt it.

I've heard of people having friends call and double check to make sure they were not doing it.

**Rain Man** · 09-26-2014, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

I've heard of people having friends call and double check to make sure they were not doing it.

Yeah, as an employer you're going to be careful about that. And as a hiring person, you know as well.

There's a whole dance that goes on. If you say, "Oh, Morphius. He's great. We hated to lose him. He worked here from 2008 to 2011," that's all they need to hear. And if all you say is "Morphius was employed here from 2008 to 2011", the hiring employer knows how to interpret that as well. There's not much need for a more detailed conversation as long as everyone understands the code.

**BigRedChief** · 09-26-2014, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

If I want to check references, I'll ask in the interview who their supervisors were, and I'll call them.

Isn't that who a reference is? Your boss at your former work? Are people giving out friends and family as references?

**BigRedChief** · 09-26-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Baconeater

That's what I've been told, but I can't help but wonder how often it's really adhered to. Do you really think that a prospective employer is going to rat on a former employer for giving them information that they likely want to hear? I seriously doubt it.

What they ask my former boss is what I did there, what did I do with this part of the work, what was accomplished. I got past the technical interview, the offer has been made but they still want to check that what I did on the resume is what I actually did.

I hear that rarely do they ask anything that will be negative. Like Rainmans comment, its read between the lines.

Hammock Parties · 09-26-2014, 08:21 PM

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View Poll Results: Showing up late to a job interview is...
A sign that you don't want the job.	27	26.73%
A sign that you can't manage the basic requirements of life.	56	55.45%
A good negotiating strategy, since it shows that you don't need the job.	8	7.92%
A way to exert control over a situation that historically favors the hiring party.	4	3.96%
The way things work in the modern world. Only the uncool show up on time.	5	4.95%
Sometimes necessary if you're watching the end of a really good TV show.	5	4.95%
A colossally stupid move.	60	59.41%
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09-23-2014, 11:11 AM
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3168491 VARSITY	Tip for Job Seekers Show up at your freakin' interview on time. Seriously. If you show up 45 minutes late to a JOB INTERVIEW, it makes a BAD IMPRESSION. I don't care if you missed your bus or overslept or had other things going on. I don't care at all. There are no excuses for being late to a job interview. Zero. If you were pulling people out of a burning car en route to the interview, that's great and I commend you for it, but it only takes three minutes to pull people out of a burning car. You should have planned ahead to be within sight of the interview location an hour before your interview. You should still be on time, but with a slight aroma of burning rubber and a great story for me. I guess possibly if you were on your way to an interview in Holland and you saw a dam breaking, and you put your finger in the dam, and it then took an hour for the dam repairers to show up, then that might be a feasible excuse since you saved countless lives. But I'd still want to see it on the news that evening, and I'd want to know that there were no other people around who could have switched fingers with you. Here's how you go to a job interview: 1. Drive to the interview with plans to be there an hour early. 2. Walk to the front door of the place an hour early just to be sure you know where it is. 3. Go to the nearest coffee shop and check out the company's web site and come up with some good questions and talking points. 4. Show up 10 minutes early. Sheesh. Humanity amazes me sometimes.
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