House of the Dragon

[staylor26]

Great first episode. Daemon is already my favorite character.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Great first episode. Daemon is already my favorite character.

Literally the least surprising development ever.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Literally the least surprising development ever.

I prefer villains and anti-heroes

Doesn't look like I'm alone though. From what I've seen, Daemon is the early fan favorite.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I prefer villains and anti-heroes

Doesn't look like I'm alone though. From what I've seen, Daemon is the early fan favorite.

I preferred that dude from Dorne that beat his ass.

I guess you just support beta bitches and pussies.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I preferred that dude from Dorne that beat his ass.

I guess you just support beta bitches and pussies.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I preferred that dude from Dorne that beat his ass.

I guess you just support beta bitches and pussies.

Says the guy that defended Will Smith of all people!

But seriously, I'm pretty sure GRRM said Daemon is his favorite character in the entire GOT universe.

He seems like the epitome of "gray" characters that he loves. I know he was portrayed as a bit of an antagonist, but there's more to his character.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I prefer villains and anti-heroes

Doesn't look like I'm alone though. From what I've seen, Daemon is the early fan favorite.

Lol.

Yeah he was my favorite as well. The episode didn't disappoint me. Felt like i was watching Game of Thrones and Daemon stole the show. Both as an actor and a character.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Great first episode. Daemon is already my favorite character.

I didn't like the casting of Matt Smith as Daemon (especially when the trailers aired). He knocked this first episode out of the park, even if I think a roided up Hiddleston would have been the best option.

Spoiler!

TBH, the casting of Aegon and Aemond is what's going to make/break this show. You've got to have two young, talented actors to portray those roles and I hope they do it. Aemond is a much more difficult character to sell as a young kid (honestly hope they age him up a bit for the show) so he can appear as he is in the books.

[Sorter]

Also,

Spoiler!

WTF was that ASOIAF reference at the end? Didn't AGOT make it clear Samwell came up with that on his own? Just seems ****ing silly they're trying to shove that into this story.

[dlphg9]

Really enjoyed the first episode. Super excited for this series.

[Buehler445]

I’m here for it. It’s a step below the prime GOT. Either they didn’t get the money GOT got or they didn’t utilize it as effectively. The dragons didn’t look as good, the dragon fire was laughably bad, and the sets don’t look nearly as good as they did in the first series.

The acting also isn’t as strong. I think there was a real magnetism with the writing and performances of the first few seasons. But In this one yo didn’t “feel” much.

But I did enjoy it. It’s going to get a fair bit of rope to hang itself.

Hilariously my buddy said he read an article that said the show wasn’t going to have as much violence or sex. They lied.

Originally Posted by Sorter

Also,

Spoiler!

WTF was that ASOIAF reference at the end? Didn't AGOT make it clear Samwell came up with that on his own? Just seems ****ing silly they're trying to shove that into this story.

Meh. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive. I thought it was a decent little plug.

Spoiler!

Obviously it died with the Targaryens when everything went to shit. Just another reason humanity got in the way of a good idea.

And Sam naming it that can be hand waived as pure coincidence.

Is it cheese, sure. Do I hate it? No.

Originally Posted by staylor26

Says the guy that defended Will Smith of all people!

But seriously, I'm pretty sure GRRM said Daemon is his favorite character in the entire GOT universe.

He seems like the epitome of "gray" characters that he loves. I know he was portrayed as a bit of an antagonist, but there's more to his character.

Yeah the crew comments afterword pointed out that

Spoiler!

he was the only one there for the grieving family which he obviously cared about. Decent nuance there.

[Pogue]

Not a bad first episode. The acting in the GoT series was far superior and it had far more characters with their own storylines. This doesn’t have the pull GoT had, especially since it focuses on just one house.

I’ll give it a couple more episodes for things to flesh out but hard for me to be as invested in the house of dragon series with the way the GoT series ended.

[KC_Connection]

A good start which introduced many potentially interesting characters. It's also unfair to compare this to peak Thrones right now which took many episodes and many years to get reach the level of complexity and character development it did (S1 of that also didn't even really start rolling until mid-season).

I'm pretty sure I read there's been more spent per episode on this show than GoT. Certainly there would have to be more money in it than the early seasons of that.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It's also unfair to compare this to peak Thrones right now which took many episodes and many years to get reach the level of complexity and character development it did (S1 of that also didn't even really start rolling until mid-season).
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Agreed. My recollection of season 1 was that it was a fight to get through the first several episodes and i really didn't get satisfaction till the end of the season.

This episode of House of the Dragon felt like GOT several seasons in already in terms of production value.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

A good start which introduced many potentially interesting characters. It's also unfair to compare this to peak Thrones right now which took many episodes and many years to get reach the level of complexity and character development it did (S1 of that also didn't even really start rolling until mid-season).

I'm pretty sure I read there's been more spent per episode on this show than GoT. Certainly there would have to be more money in it than the early seasons of that.

Huh. Didn’t look like it. At least in sets.I know the dragons cost big money. And I’m sure that little fly through kings landing cost more than I’ll make in a lifetime but hitting the screen there was a lot of stuff that looked cheap. Most of the castle stuff looked like a set rather than a carved stone, some of the armor looked like LARP stuff compared to the original stuff.

And like this carriage. Shit looks like it’s straight off a syfy set.



I read that the glut of marvel/DC/Star Wars/GOT basically everything that’s out now is graphics heavy and graphics houses are feeling the crunch. There has been a lot of talk of Marvel stuff looking bad. Basic Supply/Demand curves could dictate that even substandard work could cost more than 8 years ago.

I’m nowhere near educated enough to speak intelligently on it, but it doesn’t look good in some places. It was bad enough to take me out of it but I’m not mad. Im here for the story and performances. Id have much rather them told a better story than put up the awesome visual of Drogon shaking off the snow (that was awesome, BTW). But it’s there.