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Old 04-01-2014, 09:56 PM  
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DeSean Jackson Is Officially A Redskin
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:02 PM   #211
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Jarius Byrd isn't a box safety.
Neither is Berry.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:04 PM   #212
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Berry is a box safety on a defense with a below average run defense.

He is a good player, but the truth is we could probably replace his role on this team with a much cheaper player.

The only way I see him getting a big money extension is for him to PROVE he can be effective in coverage and be a ball hawking playmaker.

I highly doubt they pay him big money to keep being a glorified linebacker.
Berry has the versatility to do more than that. He wasn't bad in coverage last year. For some reason, he just wasn't good in the playoff game against the Colts. But most importantly, the kid is 25 and played a completely different defense. One of the advantages of him playing in the box is that he helps quarterback the defense. I think he's smart and dedicated, and he's only going to improve his leadership.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:05 PM   #213
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Yep. 100% agree.

I loved what BA brought this team last year, but refusing to allow the Dolphins to give Albert a physical last draft season was dumb as **** when he was gone if you didn't franchise him again.

Fasano, Robinson, Daniels contracts were horrid.
It goes past those 3, too. If we want to be honest about the situation.

I mean we all like Bowe and Colquitt, but for 15 million a year between them?

Sorry, but I'd rather just draft a punter in the 6th for dirt cheap and for that 15 million get Desean Jackson, Chris Clemons and another starting caliber player.

Oh well.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:06 PM   #214
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Not the same player in type but Berry would get similar or better $ on the open market. You know this, I know this.

Berry > than DeSean. Its simple really.
Sorry, but the bolded part is not true.
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Sorry, but that's not true.
If you say so it must be right.
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:07 PM   #216
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Not the same player in type but Berry would get similar or better $ on the open market. You know this, I know this.

Berry > than DeSean. Its simple really.
He absolutely wouldn't not at this point.

If he shows he can play the single high safety at that level, maybe.
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Dorsey's spending last off-season, in hindsight, was completely atrocious.
It was. I thought he was extremely effective with the scrap stuff, including lower picks in the draft. Which is why I'm fine with the approach they're taking this year. He seems much more comfortable and in control, even if that means firmly saying "no."
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If you say so it must be right.
Berry has been in KC for 4 years and has only 12 plays where he was part of a turnover.

In 5 years, Jarius Byrd was a part of 38 turnovers.

I'm trying to remain objective here...
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Old 04-02-2014, 07:09 PM   #220
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Not the same player in type but Berry would get similar or better $ on the open market. You know this, I know this.

Berry > than DeSean. Its simple really.
There's no absolutely NO WAY Eric Berry is as valuable as Jairus Byrd.

He's a solid role player and a standout on a defense with only three players who are more outstanding at their positions than he is at his. Berry had 1 more INT than a broken-down and old Troy Polamalu and was credited with fewer forced fumbles. Hell, the safety opposite Jairus Byrd generated more turnovers. Heck, ED REED had the same number of INTs last season as Berry did last season and he was on two teams!

Any team that signs EB to a big contract is either paying him to play the same role in KC or on the sole potential of him being being the next Ed Reed circa 2006-2008.
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Neither is Berry.
He himself has said he relishes playing "down in the paint".
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Berry has been in KC for 4 years and has only 12 plays where he was part of a turnover.

In 5 years, Jarius Byrd was a part of 38 turnovers.

I'm trying to remain objective here...
He also has only played 3 seasons, 1 of which was coming off an acl tear so that's a little unfair
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He absolutely wouldn't not at this point.

If he shows he can play the single high safety at that level, maybe.
Exactly.

A safeties job (if he is to earn the mega bucks) is to limit big plays and take the ball away.

I'm sorry, but to this point Berry has displayed the ability to do neither consistently.
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The San Francisco 49ers and Oakland Raiders both reached out to the Los Angeles Police Department to confirm reports of DeSean Jackson's continued involvement with alleged members of Los Angeles street gangs; LAPD confirmed the reports, CSNBayArea.com has learned.

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There's no absolutely NO WAY Eric Berry is as valuable as Jairus Byrd.

He's a solid role player and a standout on a defense with only three players who are more outstanding at their positions than he is at his. Berry had 1 more INT than a broken-down and old Troy Polamalu and was credited with fewer forced fumbles. Hell, the safety opposite Jairus Byrd generated more turnovers. Heck, ED REED had the same number of INTs last season as Berry did last season and he was on two teams!

Any team that signs EB to a big contract is either paying him to play the same role in KC or on the sole potential of him being being the next Ed Reed circa 2006-2008.
You chiming in is all the endorsement my opinion needs.
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