Fox Fall 2013: Sleepy Hollow

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm not stating that they should have followed the "family narrative" or a side kick and love interest angle. But here's a character in Ichabod that's a British traitor serving under George Washington in the Revolutionary War. There are endless possibilities.

For instance, they found the head way too soon, IMO. Why not make it more of a mystery where Ichabod says something along the lines of "I know who knows where the head lies. George Washington (or Ben Franklin or John Hancock, for that matter)".

Then, they could mix history with the procedural, which would have made it really fun and more "grounded".

IMO, it would sure beat the hell out of witches. Blech.

I'd like to see where it goes before passing judgement about the witches. While witchcraft has never been my 'thing', I actually think that's a fresher take than a national treasure/davinci code adventure would be. But I am admittedly a fan of things with a weirder supernatural take. It sounds like a few of you can't stretch your imagination that far, and that's fine. Different strokes...

I thought it started fine but began to unravel around the half hour mark. There was too much infodump. A lot of writers seem to be losing the old "show, don't tell" addage. There were too many abrupt events, as well. Just as an example, Sulu's ties to the dark side should've been foreshadowed by something more sophisticated than a moustache-twirl of a look. They gave it away in such a hackneyed fashion that there was no tension left when he arrived at his apartment and found the horseman there. Similarly, I thought the Reverend witch just wasn't handled very well. I also thought the editing was a little too schizophrenic for my tastes. I think as a whole there wasn't much in the way of subtlety or sophistication to the pilot. It had all the hallmarks of the downside of the bad robot guys: trying so hard to be cool and edgy that they miss the mark on the common sense stuff.

That said, I enjoyed it and will keep watching. At least until Fox cancels it.

I hope Almost Human's pilot in November is stronger. That one actually is a full bad robot production, sleepy hollow isn't, just orci/kurtzman, but i'm not sure whether that's a positive or a negative at this point.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'd like to see where it goes before passing judgement about the witches. While witchcraft has never been my 'thing', I actually think that's a fresher take than a national treasure/davinci code adventure would be. But I am admittedly a fan of things with a weirder supernatural take. It sounds like a few of you can't stretch your imagination that far, and that's fine. Different strokes...

I thought it started fine but began to unravel around the half hour mark. There was too much infodump. A lot of writers seem to be losing the old "show, don't tell" addage. There were too many abrupt events, as well. Just as an example, Sulu's ties to the dark side should've been foreshadowed by something more sophisticated than a moustache-twirl of a look. They gave it away in such a hackneyed fashion that there was no tension left when he arrived at his apartment and found the horseman there. Similarly, I thought the Reverend witch just wasn't handled very well. I also thought the editing was a little too schizophrenic for my tastes. I think as a whole there wasn't much in the way of subtlety or sophistication to the pilot. It had all the hallmarks of the downside of the bad robot guys: trying so hard to be cool and edgy that they miss the mark on the common sense stuff.

That said, I enjoyed it and will keep watching. At least until Fox cancels it.

I felt like the writers were trying to cram the first season into one episode so they can get to the meat of the plot.

It almost felt like they were trying to grab the audience's attention to avoid the Firefly treatment.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I'd like to see where it goes before passing judgement about the witches. While witchcraft has never been my 'thing', I actually think that's a fresher take than a national treasure/davinci code adventure would be. But I am admittedly a fan of things with a weirder supernatural take. It sounds like a few of you can't stretch your imagination that far, and that's fine. Different strokes...

I thought it started fine but began to unravel around the half hour mark. There was too much infodump. A lot of writers seem to be losing the old "show, don't tell" addage. There were too many abrupt events, as well. Just as an example, Sulu's ties to the dark side should've been foreshadowed by something more sophisticated than a moustache-twirl of a look. They gave it away in such a hackneyed fashion that there was no tension left when he arrived at his apartment and found the horseman there. Similarly, I thought the Reverend witch just wasn't handled very well. I also thought the editing was a little too schizophrenic for my tastes. I think as a whole there wasn't much in the way of subtlety or sophistication to the pilot. It had all the hallmarks of the downside of the bad robot guys: trying so hard to be cool and edgy that they miss the mark on the common sense stuff.

That said, I enjoyed it and will keep watching. At least until Fox cancels it.

I hope Almost Human's pilot in November is stronger. That one actually is a full bad robot production, sleepy hollow isn't, just orci/kurtzman, but i'm not sure whether that's a positive or a negative at this point.

The witch angle has been done to a certain extent with this story before in Tim Burton film. So I wouldn't really call it fresh. And honestly, the aspect of it does not bother me all that much. My biggest issue is with making neck stump into one of the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. That is just stretching it too far from the original story for me.