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Old 05-01-2013, 10:21 AM  
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Chiefs trade (Arenas) for...wait for it...a FB?
Chiefs acquired FB Anthony Sherman from the Chiefs...er Cardinals.
New Cards head coach Bruce Arians has no room for plodding fullbacks in his aggressive, vertical offense. So Sherman heads to Andy Reid's West Coast scheme as Jamaal Charles' lead blocker. The 2011 fifth-rounder graded out 20th among 25 qualifying fullbacks in Pro Football Focus' rankings last season. May 1 - 12:11 PM

WTF?

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Old 05-01-2013, 01:35 PM   #316
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:39 PM   #319
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:40 PM   #320
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why does it make all the criers cry to point out obvious things?

CB value > FB value
Would you trade William Bartee for Tony Richardson?

And before you get off-topic and compare this guy to Tony Richardson (which I'm not doing), please answer the question.

Just want to see if you can be honest with yourself that your point, actually, is only accurate if the use of the players and their remaining seasons and their skills are equal.
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Arenas didn't want to be here anymore. There was more than one CB brought in this year by the FO that was going to play over him and Arenas didn't like it (see his reaction to Arrowhead Pride on Twitter once Smith and Arenas was signed). Instead of upright releasing him, Dorsey got something in return, even though it may have been minimal, it was still something.
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why does it make all the criers cry to point out obvious things?

CB value > FB value

Arenas is a mediocre nickle back
this choad is not even a mediocre FB

the value simply doesn't align
Mediocre nickelbacks who have reached their ceiling have less than no value. They have negative value. I'd literally rather have any rookie free agent taking Arenas' snaps in camp, because there is even the remotest possibility that they could develop into a solid contributor.

Arenas was tied for 18th in the league in PRYD average with 8.9 per return. Whoopty doo!

Leodis McKelvin led the league with 18.7. Get the **** out of my face with Arenas having any value other than making McCluster look more normal in group photos.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:41 PM   #323
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Not thread-worthy IMO but I didn't know where else to put it. So...

Dunta Robinson and Brandon Flowers lined up as the starting corners during Tuesday's minicamp session.
Sean Smith came on with the nickel defense, kicking Flowers inside to the slot. It's an intimidating trio for opposing offenses as all three corners are capable of handling No. 1 wideouts. The physically imposing Smith figures to see more time in the base defense when the Chiefs need to slow down a bigger receiver. Flowers graded out as a top-seven corner last season, per Pro Football Focus. Apr 17 - 10:31 AM

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Would you trade William Bartee for Tony Richardson?

And before you get off-topic and compare this guy to Tony Richardson (which I'm not doing), please answer the question.

Just want to see if you can be honest with yourself that your point, actually, is only accurate if the use of the players and their remaining seasons and their skills are equal.
my bad, I guess I should have distinguished between probowl players and 3rd stringers...you got me, there is always an excpetion

so, are we trading for Tony Richardson?
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And, again, I like Arenas and think he could be an okay third or fourth CB. But I also recognize he lacks the intangibles that Reid wants.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:43 PM   #326
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I was being sarcastic.
I understood that, which is why I said "obviously".

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Reid probably does recognize it but it still begs the question: why trade two #2's for Smith?
It was a stupid trade.
I also believe that trading a CB for a FB is a stupid trade.

All I'm saying here is this move, along with all the other FBs competing for a roster spot, suggests that he does recognize what he traded for.
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if they play Sean Smith and Dunta Robinson in the base defense over Brandon Flowers even 1 ****ing snap in a game this season this FO deserves to be fired

the fact that they insist on starting Dunta Robinson, a known burn victim is a joke in itself
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the issue I have is the value of a hall of fame TE for a ****ing FB

and you wonder why this team will never win anything
I do love that the 'aging' Tony Gonzalez will play longer for the team he got traded to than the guy the Chiefs got for him as part of their rebuilding effort.

Showed up a year later, left a year sooner. Nicely done, Pioli.
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my bad, I guess I should have distinguished between probowl players and 3rd stringers...you got me, there is always an excpetion

so, are we trading for Tony Richardson?
The odds are wildly against it, but then again Richardson spent his first season as an UFA on the practice squad with Dallas before being unceremoniously dumped.
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