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Old 02-25-2013, 01:11 PM   #1
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Smoke, fire.

Consider this a preemptive strike, Messier.

Seriously. Follow the dots. You've been a Chiefs fan for how many years?

If your answer is anything GREATER THAN THE NUMBER FOUR, then WE KNOW THIS IS A SHIT CALL.
There was no smoke. The niners leaked that shit to try to drum up interest in Smith. We're not trading for him. If he's a chief it'll be via free agency and I doubt he'd sign here over Arizona
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:12 PM   #2
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There was no smoke. The niners leaked that shit to try to drum up interest in Smith. We're not trading for him. If he's a chief it'll be via free agency and I doubt he'd sign here over Arizona
So let's do the bet, then.

Let's do the bet.

Deal?
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:11 PM   #3
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Man, we traded for Smith already? That sucks. I thought maybe it wasn't going to happen given all the reports today that no deal is done with any team and that SF was just bs-ing to up the price and get more suitors.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:38 PM   #4
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The 2008 season = 2-14, ushered in the ***** regime.

The 2012 season = 2-14, ushered in the Reid regime.

3rd overall pick in 2009, with a great QB prospect on board (Sanchez), no QB on the roster.

1st overall pick in 2013, with a great QB prospect on board (Smith), no QB on the roster.

Chiefs trade a high 2nd in 2009 for somebody else's backup (Matt Cassel).

Chiefs trade a high 3rd in 2013 for somebody else's backup (Alex Smith).

Matt Cassel's career stats as of today: 58% completion, 6.6 yards/pass, 173 yards/game, 82 TD to 57 INT, 160 sacks, and 24 40+ yard plays.

Alex Smith's career stats as of today: 59% completion, 6.6 yards/pass, 178 yards/game, 81 TD to 63 INT, 196 sacks, and 33 40+ yard plays.

Chiefs use the 3rd overall in 2009 on a non-impact trench player (Tyson Jackson).

Chiefs use the 1st overall in 2013 on a non-impact trench player (Luke Joeckel).

I HATE THIS GODDAMN TEAM.

SERIOUSLY.

**** THIS GODDAMN TEAM.
Just stop.

You're getting ready to jump off of a bridge and you're trying to convince everyone else to jump with you because your panties are in a wad over a complete BULLSHIT story.

THE 49ERS AND THE CHIEFS HAVE NOT AGREED TO ANYTHING. This story has the same amount of proof as the stories that claimed it was a 95% certainty that Andy Reid will coach the Arizona Cardinals. It has the same amount of proof as Nick Athan's "The deal is done" story about Mike Shanahan becoming the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. Right now it's nothing more than bullshit speculation.

Not only have you gone into full panic mode over bullshit speculation, but you're also insisting upon blaming Reid and Dorsey for the collective failures of their predecessors.

Do you blame Obama for the War in Iraq over WMDs that were never found?

Do you blame Bush for the Monica Lewinsky scandal?

Do you blame Clinton for the Iran Contra affair?

Do you blame Reagan for the stagflation of the 1970s?

Do you blame Carter for the Viet Nam war?

No? You don't blame those guys for the mistakes of their predecessors? Then maybe you should stop blaming Dorsey and Reid for everything bad that has ever happened with the Chiefs.

IF they pass on Geno Smith, and IF they bring in Alex Smith, and IF they fail as miserably as the Scott ***** regime did, THEN threads like this will be appropriate. IF those things happen, THEN you'll be able to blame them all you want, and they will deserve it.

Until then, you're just acting like a whiny bitch.

JUST STOP.

SERIOUSLY.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:44 PM   #5
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No? You don't blame those guys for the mistakes of their predecessors? Then maybe you should stop blaming Dorsey and Reid for everything bad that has ever happened with the Chiefs.
Nobody is BLAMING Dorsey and Reid for everything bad that has ever happened with the Chiefs.

People are, RIGHTFULLY, concerned that they will repeat the mistakes of the past. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:52 PM   #6
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Nobody is BLAMING Dorsey and Reid for everything bad that has ever happened with the Chiefs.

People are, RIGHTFULLY, concerned that they will repeat the mistakes of the past. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
I'll be bitterly disappointed if Reid and Dorsey bring in Alex instead of Geno.

But Alex Smith is not Matt Cassel. If Reid and Dorsey decide to go in that direction, I'm not jumping off of a bridge. I'll hope that they are right and I am wrong.

I liked the earlier post in this thread where it was pointed out that if the Chiefs had drafted Mark Sanchez, there would be similar threads today saying that the Chiefs must draft Luke Joekel instead of Geno Smith in order to avoid history repeating itself.

Fact #1: The players are different, the guys doing the evaluations are different, and the situations are different.

Fact #2: No head coach or GM worth a shit lets the fans choose the quarterback, no matter how intense the feelings of the fans are.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:01 PM   #7
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But Alex Smith is not Matt Cassel. If Reid and Dorsey decide to go in that direction, I'm not jumping off of a bridge. I'll hope that they are right and I am wrong.
No, he's not. Over the course of his entire career, he's actually WORSE than Matt Cassel.

And if they go that direction, they're stupid. Just like Pioli was stupid. I don't have any hope and they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Period.

Now, for me, it's not just Alex Smith in a vacuum. If they still draft a QB #1 overall, that's something. But if we get Smith and draft a tackle, it's over for me. No more histrionics, I promise. Because I'm walking away.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:12 PM   #8
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:12 PM   #9
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
It was the plurality opinion at the time, pushed by the Drafturbators themselves.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:13 PM   #10
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
I was on the Sanchize peni. I whiffed. I whiffed on Ryan too. BUT I STILL WANNA BE GM!
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:20 PM   #11
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
Im on record as wanting them to draft Sanchez at the time.

I also didnt mind the Cassel trade at the time either. The mistake was made by not bringing in any competition to replace him or upgrade him.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:21 PM   #12
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
I would have pulled the trigger on Sanchex if we hadn't traded for Cassel but he had alot more red flags then he ever had "it". Sanchex to Geno Smith isn't a good comparison at all. From the number of starts to the arm strength to the athleticism.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:21 PM   #13
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
Ummm...
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:25 PM   #14
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
I didn't think he was a great prospect. I was concerned about his lack of starts.

But I let myself get caught up in wanting him because the alternative was scary. And guess what? Regardless of how Sanchez turned out, the alternative absolutely WAS scary.
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Was I the only one who didn't think Sanchez was a great QB prospect at the time? I couldn't have been, but it sure felt like it sometimes.
I didn't like Sanchez at all.

I did whiff on Matt Ryan though... I never thought he would be any good.
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