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Old 02-12-2013, 04:19 PM   #1
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If Reid wants Foles as competition/backup ...I'd have no problem sending our top pick in the third for him.

We need to get this QB situation FIXED...as I said, if it takes our first overall AND our third rounder to fix our quarterback position, so be it.

IMO, we should just sign a solid vet and draft Geno...go to camp with Stanzi, Geno and a vet...but I wouldn't be pissed if all three of our quarterbacks were young and talented.

Andy Reid has shown the ability to take kids with talent and get them to play well or trade themfor premium picks AND players.
The thing is, none of those scenarios you mentioned REQUIRE us to give up picks for Foles.

A guy like Foles is going to cost more than he's worth - see Matt Flynn.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:26 PM   #2
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The thing is, none of those scenarios you mentioned REQUIRE us to give up picks for Foles.

A guy like Foles is going to cost more than he's worth - see Matt Flynn.
Foles has talent...there was a time when he was in the conversation for being a top ten pick and fell to the mid 3rd.

Flynn was a 7th rounder.

Question: we have all this trust in Andy Reid, right?

Well,Andy Reid thought it was good enough value in the third to take Foles, even though he had just given Vick a 100 million dollar contract.

I'm not saying they SHOULD trade for him, just that I wouldn't be pissed if they did.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:29 PM   #3
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Foles has talent...there was a time when he was in the conversation for being a top ten pick and fell to the mid 3rd.

Flynn was a 7th rounder.

Question: we have all this trust in Andy Reid, right?

Well,Andy Reid thought it was good enough value in the third to take Foles, even though he had just given Vick a 100 million dollar contract.

I'm not saying they SHOULD trade for him, just that I wouldn't be pissed if they did.
Taking Foles in the 3rd after signing Vick is the exact OPPOSITE of the situation we have here, though...

I'm not suggesting I'll be pissed if they bring in Foles (unless they give up a high pick for him, which is just a ****ing waste) but it's certainly going to shake my confidence in Reid a bit. It just reeks of one of those moves coaches make to be comfortable and safe.

In the end, I just don't see any reason to bring him in. There are a myriad of better options out there.

Literally.

No reason.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:58 PM   #4
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Taking Foles in the 3rd after signing Vick is the exact OPPOSITE of the situation we have here, though...

I'm not suggesting I'll be pissed if they bring in Foles (unless they give up a high pick for him, which is just a ****ing waste) but it's certainly going to shake my confidence in Reid a bit. It just reeks of one of those moves coaches make to be comfortable and safe.

In the end, I just don't see any reason to bring him in. There are a myriad of better options out there.

Literally.

No reason.
Reasons it would make sense to trade a mid round pick for Foles:

1) Andy Reid liked him enough to draft him in the third round, even though he had just committed to Vick with a 100 million dollars.

2) he just turned 24 and has the tools.

3) experience in the exact system we run and the skill set to run it.

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Lets not act like Foles looked like trash....he played well for a rookie.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:52 PM   #5
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1) Andy Reid liked him enough to draft him in the third round, even though he had just committed to Vick with a 100 million dollars.
They gave Vick 100M because he was the STARTER. They took Foles as a DEVELOPMENTAL PROSPECT. The situation here isn't even remotely close to that.

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2) he just turned 24 and has the tools.
MIGHT have the tools. Might.

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3) experience in the exact system we run and the skill set to run it.

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Lets not act like Foles looked like trash....he played well for a rookie.
Funny how you want to say Foles isn't trash but by the same token think that:

1) The Eagles should dump him after his rookie season, thus making him "trash" by definition and
2) The Chiefs would bring him in to be a backup, thus making him "trash" by definition.

There's 2 distinct thought processes going on in this thread and they're not gelling.

Yes, Foles is a talent.

He's NOT COMING HERE for a 5th-round pick and he's NOT COMING HERE to compete with a rookie.

All of the things you said about him above are absolutely true. Which is why the idea of getting him AND Geno will NEVER come to fruition. Ever.
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Old 02-12-2013, 05:55 PM   #6
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He's NOT COMING HERE for a 5th-round pick and he's NOT COMING HERE to compete with a rookie.
Meh.

He could absolutely come here for #65 and be the backup.

I doubt anyone is going to give a higher pick for him, because he hasn't shown he's worth it at this point.

This isn't an Alex Smith "start me or die" situation.
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Meh.

He could absolutely come here for #65 and be the backup.

I doubt anyone is going to give a higher pick for him, because he hasn't shown he's worth it at this point.

This isn't an Alex Smith "start me or die" situation.
Which way do you want to get picked apart on this one?

If he hasn't shown he's worth it, why are we giving up picks for him?

Or if he IS worth it, why are the Eagles shipping him out?

Face it, no matter how you slice it, there are a DOZEN or more better options out there.
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