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Rasputin · 10-15-2017, 05:55 PM

Got to get over the loss quick it's a short week. It's Raiders week and we play Thursday Night Football

Discuss:

Oh and **** the Raiders

carcosa · 10-16-2017, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

We're going to win!

Thank you.

RunKC · 10-16-2017, 10:07 AM

JDR has been thoroughly out coached in embarrassing fashion by Andy every single time. They've had entire offseasons and multiple months between games and we still own them.

What makes anyone think JDR can change this on a short week?

jdubya · 10-16-2017, 10:10 AM

Jack Del Dummy has lost the team. Carr looks a deer in the headlights. Raider fans actually miss Musgrave.......Chiefs roll the Raiders just as the weak ass Dolts just did on the Raider turf.....

gold_and_red · 10-16-2017, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I agree. Raiders defense is terrible too. Good bounce back game for us.

Points wise they haven't been getting torched. But much like KC yesterday they are on the field for too long. Patient grinding drives much like the Texans game should be the formula.

scho63 · 10-16-2017, 01:12 PM

We've got just two objectives in this game: find a way to win and no ****ing injuries!

That's it plain and simple!!!

oldman · 10-16-2017, 01:23 PM

I'm proud to say that I've hated the Raiders since 1963. I hate them more than Denver, Washington, the Eagles, and Foxborough combined. Our guys should be mighty pissed and ready to open a big can of whoop-ass because anything less than a total, humiliating beat-down is going to drive me insane, or at least more than I am now.

Rasputin · 10-16-2017, 02:55 PM

Kelce needs to have a good game but I was concerned about him playing the Steelers with lingering concuss even if he passes protocol. I don't think he was 100% for it and his productivity(l#lackthereof) showed.

We need to embarrass Jackoff Del Rio defense this game and get this offense rolling again.

temper11 · 10-16-2017, 04:01 PM

Have we heard if the Chiefs will have enough players to field a team for Thursday night?

pugsnotdrugs19 · 10-16-2017, 04:08 PM

I feel like we are to the Raiders what the Steelers are to us. Just a bad matchup. We give them lots of problems, as Pittsburgh does to KC.

carcosa · 10-17-2017, 10:55 AM

thank you

Albert Wilson is “getting better,” per Reid.
— BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) October 17, 2017

Rasputin · 10-17-2017, 12:30 PM

This is really what it is all about

BDRIH

Ben Davidson Rot In Hell

BlackOp · 10-17-2017, 04:14 PM

Hunt against that defense should be entertaining...and Hunter Henry had a good game on Sunday. Kelce should be big in this one.

jdubya · 10-17-2017, 05:00 PM

sums it up..

This article says everything.

After losing their fourth game in a row, it is clear that Todd Downing and Jack Del Rio do not know how to use the Oakland Raiders’ talent.

If the Oakland Raiders were in quick sand, then their heads would be barely sticking out to grasp for air. That’s how this season is going for this team. They just keep sinking without any hope in sight.

They have now equaled their total losses from last season by losing their fourth consecutive game, falling at home against the Los Angeles Chargers. What has happened to this team? Why has this once Super Bowl favorite team taken a turn for the worst?

The answer is so obvious that even Stevie Wonder can point it out: Offensive coordinator Todd Downing and the man who elevated him over Bill Musgrave in head coach Jack Del Rio.

Downing has been such a disappointment that he has taken this once feared offense and has completely dismantled it. They have no identity, no toughness and no variety. It took opposing teams two games for them to figure out Downing’s scheme or lack there of.

Downing dramatically altered an offense that didn’t need any alterations. Transitioning from a power blocking scheme to a zone blocking scheme has shown that it doesn’t fit this offensive line’s style. This explains why the running game can never take off. The Raiders have run 70 outside zone scheme runs, that’s six more than they did all last season (64), per Pro Football Focus.

The lack of play-action calls is ridiculous. According to Pro Football Focus, the Raiders have run 12 play-action plays thus far. Last season, the Raiders ran 99 play-actions with 38 of them being called through the first six weeks. It’s safe to say that Downing doesn’t have more than a couple of them in his playbook, although I doubt you can call it a book from the lack of variety.

That hook and ladder play that he called in the fourth quarter was rather cute though. It reminded me of a high school football game. So at least we know Downing knows how to run a high school offense.

He’s clearly treating Derek Carr like a high school quarterback. All but six of his throws Sunday were within six yards of the line of scrimmage. We all know the arm strength and deep ball accuracy Carr possesses, but Downing refuses to use his players’ strengths.

That is the difference between good coaches and bad ones. The good ones know how to use their talent and put them in the right spot. The bad ones… well… we are currently witnessing it. Something we didn’t too much last year because Musgrave was pushing the offense to its fullest alongside Carr.

Del Rio’s decision to let Musgrave walk in favor of Downing has been this teams downfall. Del Rio is showing what kind of coach he is when the chips aren’t in his favor. We’ve seen it with his fake punt call in Denver and his incompetent punt call against the Ravens in the fourth quarter that essentially ended the game. Now we are seeing it in his press conferences.

Del Rio is pulling a Hue Jackson, meaning he is throwing players under the bus. Even if they deserve it, like Sean Smith, as a head coach you don’t drag your players through the mud publicly.

When the Raiders fired Dennis Allen, there wasn’t really anyone that wanted to take the job. Del Rio stepped in and aided this team in its rise, but it is clear now that he is not the one to take this team to the promise land.

With so much talent on the team, the Raiders should not even be where they are. It is the coaches that have let them down. And if you think Del Rio is going anywhere you’re wrong. This past offseason owner Mark Davis signed him to an extension. No way will Davis let a guy he likes go who is on the books for a while. Makes you wonder how Reggie McKenzie would have handled this.

With the Kansas City Chiefs only just a couple of days away, I don’t see how this team starts their turnaround now. Andy Reid has owned Del Rio and there is no reason to believe that it will change this game. The Raiders are in desperate need of a leader whether that be Carr or Khalil Mack, because it is obvious that they don’t have one in any of the coaches.

Red Dawg · 10-17-2017, 05:03 PM

We are still going to play with the same players. None of them will be rushed back. That is scary on the OL.

scho63 · 10-17-2017, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

This is really what it is all about

BDRIH

Ben Davidson Rot In Hell

I met Ben when my buddy Phil Villipiano introduced me to him, Conrad Dobler, Otto Sistrunk, Dave Casper and Sean Landetta.

I got to tell Ben Davidson to his face, more like his belly button, that he was the reason I hate the Raiders after he speared Len Dawson. He just looked down at me and laughed.

10-15-2017, 05:55 PM
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10-16-2017, 10:07 AM	#32
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2259611	JDR has been thoroughly out coached in embarrassing fashion by Andy every single time. They've had entire offseasons and multiple months between games and we still own them. What makes anyone think JDR can change this on a short week? __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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10-16-2017, 10:10 AM	#33
jdubya MVP Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $4855025	Jack Del Dummy has lost the team. Carr looks a deer in the headlights. Raider fans actually miss Musgrave.......Chiefs roll the Raiders just as the weak ass Dolts just did on the Raider turf.....
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10-16-2017, 01:12 PM	#35
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2781110	We've got just two objectives in this game: find a way to win and no **ing injuries! That's it plain and simple!!! __________________ "The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!" ~Redd Foxx~** ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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10-16-2017, 01:23 PM	#36
oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	I'm proud to say that I've hated the Raiders since 1963. I hate them more than Denver, Washington, the Eagles, and Foxborough combined. Our guys should be mighty pissed and ready to open a big can of whoop-ass because anything less than a total, humiliating beat-down is going to drive me insane, or at least more than I am now.
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10-16-2017, 02:55 PM	#37
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3485421	Kelce needs to have a good game but I was concerned about him playing the Steelers with lingering concuss even if he passes protocol. I don't think he was 100% for it and his productivity(l#lackthereof) showed. We need to embarrass Jackoff Del Rio defense this game and get this offense rolling again. __________________ A Brave Man Once Requested Me To Answer Questions That Are Key 'Is It To Be Or Not To Be' And I Replied Oh Why Ask Me
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10-16-2017, 04:01 PM	#38
temper11 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013 Casino cash: $10014156	Have we heard if the Chiefs will have enough players to field a team for Thursday night? __________________ **disclaimer. Nothing in this post was meant to offend, or in any way slander the good people of Kansas City or the obviously passionate fans of the KC Chiefs.
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10-16-2017, 04:08 PM	#39
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $9139447	I feel like we are to the Raiders what the Steelers are to us. Just a bad matchup. We give them lots of problems, as Pittsburgh does to KC.
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10-17-2017, 10:55 AM	#40
carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $2833695	thank you Albert Wilson is “getting better,” per Reid. — BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) October 17, 2017
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10-17-2017, 12:30 PM	#41
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3485421	This is really what it is all about BDRIH Ben Davidson Rot In Hell __________________ A Brave Man Once Requested Me To Answer Questions That Are Key 'Is It To Be Or Not To Be' And I Replied Oh Why Ask Me
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10-17-2017, 04:14 PM	#42
BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $5875267	Hunt against that defense should be entertaining...and Hunter Henry had a good game on Sunday. Kelce should be big in this one.
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10-17-2017, 05:00 PM	#43
jdubya MVP Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $4855025	sums it up.. This article says everything. After losing their fourth game in a row, it is clear that Todd Downing and Jack Del Rio do not know how to use the Oakland Raiders’ talent. If the Oakland Raiders were in quick sand, then their heads would be barely sticking out to grasp for air. That’s how this season is going for this team. They just keep sinking without any hope in sight. They have now equaled their total losses from last season by losing their fourth consecutive game, falling at home against the Los Angeles Chargers. What has happened to this team? Why has this once Super Bowl favorite team taken a turn for the worst? The answer is so obvious that even Stevie Wonder can point it out: Offensive coordinator Todd Downing and the man who elevated him over Bill Musgrave in head coach Jack Del Rio. Downing has been such a disappointment that he has taken this once feared offense and has completely dismantled it. They have no identity, no toughness and no variety. It took opposing teams two games for them to figure out Downing’s scheme or lack there of. Downing dramatically altered an offense that didn’t need any alterations. Transitioning from a power blocking scheme to a zone blocking scheme has shown that it doesn’t fit this offensive line’s style. This explains why the running game can never take off. The Raiders have run 70 outside zone scheme runs, that’s six more than they did all last season (64), per Pro Football Focus. The lack of play-action calls is ridiculous. According to Pro Football Focus, the Raiders have run 12 play-action plays thus far. Last season, the Raiders ran 99 play-actions with 38 of them being called through the first six weeks. It’s safe to say that Downing doesn’t have more than a couple of them in his playbook, although I doubt you can call it a book from the lack of variety. That hook and ladder play that he called in the fourth quarter was rather cute though. It reminded me of a high school football game. So at least we know Downing knows how to run a high school offense. He’s clearly treating Derek Carr like a high school quarterback. All but six of his throws Sunday were within six yards of the line of scrimmage. We all know the arm strength and deep ball accuracy Carr possesses, but Downing refuses to use his players’ strengths. That is the difference between good coaches and bad ones. The good ones know how to use their talent and put them in the right spot. The bad ones… well… we are currently witnessing it. Something we didn’t too much last year because Musgrave was pushing the offense to its fullest alongside Carr. Del Rio’s decision to let Musgrave walk in favor of Downing has been this teams downfall. Del Rio is showing what kind of coach he is when the chips aren’t in his favor. We’ve seen it with his fake punt call in Denver and his incompetent punt call against the Ravens in the fourth quarter that essentially ended the game. Now we are seeing it in his press conferences. Del Rio is pulling a Hue Jackson, meaning he is throwing players under the bus. Even if they deserve it, like Sean Smith, as a head coach you don’t drag your players through the mud publicly. When the Raiders fired Dennis Allen, there wasn’t really anyone that wanted to take the job. Del Rio stepped in and aided this team in its rise, but it is clear now that he is not the one to take this team to the promise land. With so much talent on the team, the Raiders should not even be where they are. It is the coaches that have let them down. And if you think Del Rio is going anywhere you’re wrong. This past offseason owner Mark Davis signed him to an extension. No way will Davis let a guy he likes go who is on the books for a while. Makes you wonder how Reggie McKenzie would have handled this. With the Kansas City Chiefs only just a couple of days away, I don’t see how this team starts their turnaround now. Andy Reid has owned Del Rio and there is no reason to believe that it will change this game. The Raiders are in desperate need of a leader whether that be Carr or Khalil Mack, because it is obvious that they don’t have one in any of the coaches.
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10-17-2017, 05:03 PM	#44
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