2nd rnd. Geno, Wilson, Barkley, Glennon gone...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

agreed ... i didn't say that i wanted us to do it.

If the Chiefs determine that there just isn't a QB worth the #1 or that they just have to have some other guy at #1 then they need a plan to trade up in place.


what would trading up from #32 to 13-18ish cost?


assuming that Geno/Wilson won't be considered top 10 or they would just draft him at #1 so they would both fall to the middle of the 1st round fairly 'safely'

So no QB Is worth the #1 overall, but there is one QB, at least, that would be worth 2 picks at minimum.

[Nightfyre]

Yea guys, we can time the market and get out just in time! [/techbubble investors]

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

please god no more QB trades....enough.
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

If mahi had his way, we'd be the KC Mooka-Lookas, comprised of nothing but pacific-islander fatties.
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[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

If mahi had his way, we'd be the KC Mooka-Lookas, comprised of nothing but pacific-islander fatties.
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That sumbitch would run the Winged T

[Exoter175]

Worst draft class since forever for QBs, and OP thinks at least 4 QBs are going in the first round. Hmm.

If that's the case, lets just assume every QB is going to be gone by the 2nd round then. You know, because the argument for drafting a shit QB that high is always going to be "Its the most important position, and with the new CBA you don't have to spend as much on the gamble".

Keyword Gamble. If a guy is shit, you don't draft him. You don't draft a Brodie Croyle over a Brandon Albert people.

I promise you all, we could pass on a QB in the first round and get a QB of equal skill to the one we would have taken in the first, in the second round.

That being said, Tyler Wilson will probably get the most praise heading into the combine, and if he does well, will get the most praise coming out of it. I won't be surprised if Both Geno and Tyler are gone in the first round. Barkley won't be drafted until the 2nd or 3rd, for christs sake he's drawn comparisons to Tebow for his lack of fitting into an nfl level QB role. Glennon is a wild card. Could be the guy who goes at the end of the first, likely ends up mid 2nd, but could fall into the third, we've seen it happen with guys of his skillset.

I'd rather get Leon Sandcastle in the first and get Wilson/Bray in the 2nd if available.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Worst draft class since forever for QBs, and OP thinks at least 4 QBs are going in the first round. Hmm.

If that's the case, lets just assume every QB is going to be gone by the 2nd round then. You know, because the argument for drafting a shit QB that high is always going to be "Its the most important position, and with the new CBA you don't have to spend as much on the gamble".

Keyword Gamble. If a guy is shit, you don't draft him. You don't draft a Brodie Croyle over a Brandon Albert people.

I promise you all, we could pass on a QB in the first round and get a QB of equal skill to the one we would have taken in the first, in the second round.

That being said, Tyler Wilson will probably get the most praise heading into the combine, and if he does well, will get the most praise coming out of it. I won't be surprised if Both Geno and Tyler are gone in the first round. Barkley won't be drafted until the 2nd or 3rd, for christs sake he's drawn comparisons to Tebow for his lack of fitting into an nfl level QB role. Glennon is a wild card. Could be the guy who goes at the end of the first, likely ends up mid 2nd, but could fall into the third, we've seen it happen with guys of his skillset.

I'd rather get Leon Sandcastle in the first and get Wilson/Bray in the 2nd if available.

I can guarantee you that that is not the case. .

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

Worst draft class since forever for QBs, and OP thinks at least 4 QBs are going in the first round. Hmm.

If that's the case, lets just assume every QB is going to be gone by the 2nd round then. You know, because the argument for drafting a shit QB that high is always going to be "Its the most important position, and with the new CBA you don't have to spend as much on the gamble".

Keyword Gamble. If a guy is shit, you don't draft him. You don't draft a Brodie Croyle over a Brandon Albert people.

I promise you all, we could pass on a QB in the first round and get a QB of equal skill to the one we would have taken in the first, in the second round.

That being said, Tyler Wilson will probably get the most praise heading into the combine, and if he does well, will get the most praise coming out of it. I won't be surprised if Both Geno and Tyler are gone in the first round. Barkley won't be drafted until the 2nd or 3rd, for christs sake he's drawn comparisons to Tebow for his lack of fitting into an nfl level QB role. Glennon is a wild card. Could be the guy who goes at the end of the first, likely ends up mid 2nd, but could fall into the third, we've seen it happen with guys of his skillset.

I'd rather get Leon Sandcastle in the first and get Wilson/Bray in the 2nd if available.

How many mults do these trolls have? I mean, why even respond to a post that is laden with made-up bullshit.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I can guarantee you that that is not the case. .

They said it on ESPN radio at like 7 in the morning a few weeks ago. Just saying lol.

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

How many mults do these trolls have? I mean, why even respond to a post that is laden with made-up bullshit.

A. I'm not a multi

B. What is so made up in that post?

Simply put, there are not 4 QB's going in the first round of this draft because there aren't any elite QB's in this draft, there is nothing but backup QBs in this draft. Nobody is going to spend a first rounder on a guy they aren't at least 50/50 on being able to be a legitimate starter. As I've already stated, most of you will disagree and justify the waste of a pick with the whole CBA argument nonsense which holds no weight.

In drafts where the QB talent is there, QBs get taken, regardless of the CBA. If the talent isn't there, however, you're not going to see 8, 7, 6, 4 QBs taken in the first round, especially in a draft full of very talented fatties.

So, back to the point, Geno and Wilson are likely to be 1st round guys coming out of this draft. Barkley blows and will not be a first rounder. That leaves Glennon, Nassib, and Bray. Of those three, Bray is probably the best "project" QB because his arm in my mind, is probably the strongest of the bunch. Of those three, Glennon is probably going to be the 3rd guy drafted because it looks like he can start fairly quickly, if not immediately and pickup the reigns, but he has a pretty low ceiling. Nassib on the other hand, is more of a wildcard for me at the moment as I have no idea where I'd place him, and EJ Manuel and Klein can both go blow a Donkey.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

They said it on ESPN radio at like 7 in the morning a few weeks ago. Just saying lol.



A. I'm not a multi

B. What is so made up in that post?

Simply put, there are not 4 QB's going in the first round of this draft because there aren't any elite QB's in this draft, there is nothing but backup QBs in this draft. Nobody is going to spend a first rounder on a guy they aren't at least 50/50 on being able to be a legitimate starter. As I've already stated, most of you will disagree and justify the waste of a pick with the whole CBA argument nonsense which holds no weight.

In drafts where the QB talent is there, QBs get taken, regardless of the CBA. If the talent isn't there, however, you're not going to see 8, 7, 6, 4 QBs taken in the first round, especially in a draft full of very talented fatties.

So, back to the point, Geno and Wilson are likely to be 1st round guys coming out of this draft. Barkley blows and will not be a first rounder. That leaves Glennon, Nassib, and Bray. Of those three, Bray is probably the best "project" QB because his arm in my mind, is probably the strongest of the bunch. Of those three, Glennon is probably going to be the 3rd guy drafted because it looks like he can start fairly quickly, if not immediately and pickup the reigns, but he has a pretty low ceiling. Nassib on the other hand, is more of a wildcard for me at the moment as I have no idea where I'd place him, and EJ Manuel and Klein can both go blow a Donkey.

Geno, Barkley, Glennon and Wilson will all go in the first round.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Geno, Barkley, Glennon and Wilson will all go in the first round.

And maybe nassib imo
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[UK_Chief]

I may have missed it somewhere but has anyone discussed the possibility of KC trading UP to the middle/late 1st round to get a QB and keeping the #1 pick for BPA?

Also the only reason I can think that Dorsey is publically shitting on this QB group pre draft is so enough teams will pass on them and 1 or 2 may fall to the early 2nd.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

They said it on ESPN radio at like 7 in the morning a few weeks ago. Just saying lol.



A. I'm not a multi

B. What is so made up in that post?

Simply put, there are not 4 QB's going in the first round of this draft because there aren't any elite QB's in this draft, there is nothing but backup QBs in this draft. Nobody is going to spend a first rounder on a guy they aren't at least 50/50 on being able to be a legitimate starter. As I've already stated, most of you will disagree and justify the waste of a pick with the whole CBA argument nonsense which holds no weight.

In drafts where the QB talent is there, QBs get taken, regardless of the CBA. If the talent isn't there, however, you're not going to see 8, 7, 6, 4 QBs taken in the first round, especially in a draft full of very talented fatties.

So, back to the point, Geno and Wilson are likely to be 1st round guys coming out of this draft. Barkley blows and will not be a first rounder. That leaves Glennon, Nassib, and Bray. Of those three, Bray is probably the best "project" QB because his arm in my mind, is probably the strongest of the bunch. Of those three, Glennon is probably going to be the 3rd guy drafted because it looks like he can start fairly quickly, if not immediately and pickup the reigns, but he has a pretty low ceiling. Nassib on the other hand, is more of a wildcard for me at the moment as I have no idea where I'd place him, and EJ Manuel and Klein can both go blow a Donkey.

Yeah talent like Jake "I throw passes into the ****ing ground consistently", Blaine "I shit my pants against a 3 man rush with two slow, non pass rushing DEs playing 2-gap on the 5 tech" Gabbert and Christian "I am a worse QB than Andy Dalton"

You're out of your mind if you don't think teams are going to reach and justifiably so on the position most needed to be successful in today's NFL.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Geno, Barkley, Glennon and Wilson will all go in the first round.

Wanna bet?

Originally Posted by Sorter

Yeah talent like Jake "I throw passes into the ****ing ground consistently", Blaine "I shit my pants against a 3 man rush with two slow, non pass rushing DEs playing 2-gap on the 5 tech" Gabbert and Christian "I am a worse QB than Andy Dalton"

You're out of your mind if you don't think teams are going to reach and justifiably so on the position most needed to be successful in today's NFL.

I see you ignored all of the qualifiers, let me reiterate for you.

A. If a team isn't at least 50/50 on the person being a legitimate starter
B. If the talent isn't there

We aren't going to reach on a guy who doesn't have talent, who we don't think has a chance to become a legitimate starter.

Its as simple as that. There is MAYBE 2 or 3 guys who could start next season in this draft, and most of those won't be immediate starters.

The fact that we have the first pick in the draft, and all of the buzz around us is how we're going to pickup Alex Smith or Nick Foles should at least be some kind of clue to the fact that nobody thinks there is a solid starter in this draft, at all.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

So, back to the point, Geno and Wilson are likely to be 1st round guys coming out of this draft. Barkley blows and will not be a first rounder. That leaves Glennon, Nassib, and Bray. Of those three, Bray is probably the best "project" QB because his arm in my mind, is probably the strongest of the bunch. Of those three, Glennon is probably going to be the 3rd guy drafted because it looks like he can start fairly quickly, if not immediately and pickup the reigns, but he has a pretty low ceiling. Nassib on the other hand, is more of a wildcard for me at the moment as I have no idea where I'd place him, and EJ Manuel and Klein can both go blow a Donkey.

I just glanced at my crystal balls and saw the future. It goes down like this:

- The Chiefs will switch 1sts with the Eagles and Nick Foles will be among the compensation they'll get in return.

- The Chiefs will then draft EJ Manuel in the 4th. This way they can justify giving Foles more snaps in practice, but also develop Manuel as sort of a Cousins typr young back up.